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Wednesday, August 7, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....

Since you still have doubts about Modi (does not go well to your know it all guy persona!). It seems you are ignorant about a lot of "Contribution" of Sri Narendra Modi.

Shalom!


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From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....

 
Since when has the brain of shameless QR started functioning?  Most people in this forum know it as rotten.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
It is safe to say that, we are well pass the allegation phase with "Indian Tikka Khan" Sri narendra Modi. Hopefully the smart people among us will allow their brain to function.

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: SyedAslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....

 


2002 Gujarat Riots Full Documentary:


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  1. BBC News - Narendra Modi 'allowed' Gujarat 2002 anti-Muslim riots

    Apr 22, 2011 - Gujarat's chief minister deliberately allowed anti-Muslim riots in 2002, which left more than 1000 people dead, India's Supreme Court hears.

  1. Aamir Raza holds Narendra Modi responsible for 2002 gujarat riots ...

    www.indianexpress.com/...narendra-modi...2002-gujarat-riots.../114282...‎

    Jul 17, 2013 - Two months after he was named vice-president of the BJP in Delhi, theatre director Aamir Raza Husain left the party red-faced after he ...

    2002 Gujarat violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_violence‎


    Chief Minister Narendra Modi has been accused of initiating and condoning the ... While officially classified as a communalist riot, the 2002 events have been ...
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On Sun, 8/4/13, Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য
 Date: Sunday, August 4, 2013, 6:47 PM
 

How do we justify Modi's instruction to the police officer: 
Let the people vent their anger (ref. a recent post in mukto-mona). 
How do we justify Vajpayee's annoyance with Modi: how long have 
I to watch the bloodshed? Forget about active imvolvement.
 Even all such passivity on the part of a seating CM is unpardonable crime. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

 
Involvement of Modi in Gujrat riots has never been proved.  One may look into the myth of Gujrat Riots inhttp://www.gujaratriots.com/.  In a land where H. S. Suhrawardy is adored as a prince of democracy(Ganatantrer Barputra), Modi should be treated as an angel, albeit of a Hindu variety.


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
While I do not have a problem with Amartya Sen's comments regarding Chandam Mitra's demand for him to return the Bharat Ratna because he did not want Narendra Modi to be the Prime Minister of India, I probably would have handled the issue differently. If I were in Sen's shoes, I probably would have said something like, "my honorability has nothing to do with what Modi or BJP was, and I am ignoring Mitra's demand."

As for India's leaders influencing what goes on in Bangladesh, Modi could not be effective in secularizing Bangladesh; because he does not have a secular credential. However, talking theoretically, if India had no-nonsense secular people running the country, Bangladesh would have felt a lot more pressure to get its acts together; Bangladeshi Hindus would not have been going to India because of being victims of Muslim hatred and atrocities at their homeland of centuries.

SuBain

From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য

 
"Did Modi call that a "National Shame", Dr. Roy?"

My comment was not against Sen's remark about Modi, Dr. Bain. I said that - he has the right to do so.
My comment was, rather, on the subject of returning the Bharat Ratna medal and the tile to Vajpayee. This award has nothing to do with Modi.

Indian people know better who should be their Prime Minister. I am not in tune with their situations.
Whether Modi or someone else becomes the PM, things will not change much for Bangladesh. In fact, 2001 carnage on Hindus in Bangladesh happened during the BJP rule in India; India did not come forward to save the religious minorities in Bangladesh. So, what could be different if they come to power again? That's why - I don't care who becomes the PM.

As for our relatives in India, I am sure - nothing will change for them during another BJP tenure. They have been there before.

Thanks.

Jiten Roy


From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য

 
Looks like Dr. Roy has missed the justification that I have provided in the last post below as to why "I also think that it was OK for Professor Sen to say that he would return it if Atal Bihari Vajpayee asked it back." Clearly, Dr. Roy has failed to think what he was talking about below about Narendra Modi. Professor Sen was not allergic to the award from Prime Minister Vajpayee, who was respectable enough to term the Gujarat Riots a "National Shame." Did Modi call that a "National Shame", Dr. Roy? Did Modi as the Chief Minister of Gujarat take the responsibility of the failure of his administration to stop the riots? Never mind who started it and how many were killed from what religious community, it was Modi's job to provide safety and security for all citizens of Gujarat.

As for the sorry state of affairs in Bangladesh, I agree with Dr. Roy.

As for India, while I am not a voter there, I do care about what kind of people leads that country. In spite of Dr. Roy's statement below, I have no doubt that he also cares about what kind of people leads India. Both he and I have too many friends and relatives in India, both of us know that the leaders of India can influence what happens in Bangladesh, our beloved motherland. Obviously, we probably have some differences in philosophies, and what the two of us want India to be might be somewhat different.

Sukhamaya Bain 

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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য

 
"I also think that it was OK for Professor Sen to say that he would return it if Atal Bihari Vajpayee asked it back."

May I know what the justification behind this comment is?
Let me ask you also - why didn't he decline to receive the medal and the title from Atal Bihari Vajpei if he was so allergic to this award?

As I said before, not supporting Modi is his legitimate right. But, being an academician and a Nobel Laureate, he should know better. The riot in Gujrat was the result of a statewide spontaneous mob outbreak from both sides, which resulted 31,000 arrests throughout the state, 80% were Hindus. Total 140 killed in Police firing, 80 of them were Hindus. In the first 3 days 100 were killed, 70 were Hindus. Let's remember, Indian communal riots are never one-sided. Prime Minister termed this disaster as a "National Shame." One BJP State Minister of Modi government has been hanged recently. Do you still think Modi and Indian government did not do enough? I believe - Modi is a victim of propaganda. Modi is banned from entry to USA as a result of propaganda campaign. Some people even compared him as Golam Azam of India. So on and so forth …

Educated people should not get carried away by prop