Once again I see a lot of FALSE propaganda against PEOPLE of Bangladesh. Mr. Guha at it again. No matter which government is in power, he would find people to blame ONE party for everything that goes wrong in our country.
This time he is citing article from a Islamophobe writer. The organization Ms. Brooks is associated with has the following stated goal.
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So it looks like people like Mr. Guha has tied themselves with well known Zionist/Jewish lobby to influence politics inside Bangladesh. We know the realities behind these attacks. In fact most people who lost their lives in last two years are Muslims. But the false propaganda going around about "Forced conversion" and massive attacks on Hindus!!
Unfortunately attacks on public and communities are true but high lighting ONLY one community with misleading out of context news is what Rajakars did during 1971. I am sadden to see people like Guha (Who claim to be a Bangladeshi) is seeking help from a group of people who are experts in false propaganda.
I have NO problem if the information member Guha is spreading was true but he is working against Bangladesh. Let us see why do I say this..............
Bangladesh is erroneously considered a moderate Muslim country by the State Department.
>>>>>>>>>> This is a falsehood. Common people of this country are not fanatics. In fact time and again they risked their lives standing up against fanatics and sacrificed their lives to protect our natural religious character (Which is liberal).
We have a female head of state, female speaker, female foreign minister (Just resigned) and many female high officials. SHOW me ONE ISLAMIST country with such a portfolio!!
Minorities have scant protection against Islamist depredations such as murder, rape, and burning of their houses and places of worship
>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an ISLAMIST government? Did our current government get overwhelming majority votes from our people just five years ago? Member Guha is part of BAL (USA wing) and according to this article, he is part of an "Islamist" administration. I like to get some explanation from member Guha. Please clarify your position for us.
There are some mail going around internet showing a disproportionate number of Hindus with high level jobs in Bangladesh. Which only means they have the power to stop most of these atrocities.
This land, which was once solely inhabited by Hindus and Buddhists, now has a minority population of non-Muslims of only about nine percent. Mass murders, forced conversions, and forced flight account for the drop in numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another bloody lie.
The greater Bengal was "Invaded" by seventeen horsemen. So where is the fictional army who forced the mass to convert? It was sufis who came to Bengal and people came to Islam willingly. The only mass migration was there during 40s riot (When both Hindus and MUSLIMS left their place of birth) and during 71 (When many Hindus chose not to return from India).
We do have problems with law and order but blaming ISLAM (The religion) is a bold face lie and I condemn such hate laced propaganda (Which distorted information to misguide people) against our country.
Right now is an especially frightening time for Bangladeshi minorities, because elections will happen soon. Historically, that has always meant heightened danger, with Muslim mobs attacking vulnerable minorities no matter what the outcome of the election might be.
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should be talking to our current government about that. Most people I know are concerned about it but our government is less concern (Our government is secular).
The incumbent party, the Awami League, is nominally secularist and offers some hope for minorities.
>>>>>>>>> Now the bigoted writer comes to surface. Our people ELECTED a secular government (However they will become ISLAMIST when it is politically necessary!!). This is a FACT no one can deny. Maybe you should drop the false propaganda against your country (If you still claim to be Bangladeshi) and talk to BAL administration.
Opposing it is the Bangladesh National Party, allied with a group called Jamaat-e-Islami, which wants to impose a totalitarian form of Islam on everyone in that country.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgot to tell that, Jamaat is a tiny political party and BNP NEVER wanted to impose a totalitarian form of Islam (Yeah with the female leader it would be kinda difficult).
In the 1971 war of liberation, Jamaat was involved in war crimes against Bangladeshis, especially Hindus, who wanted freedom from Pakistan and Islamic fundamentalism.
>>>>>>>>> We have a trial going on against such people. If you folks devoted more time searching for evidence (To validate the allegations) maybe we would have seen better results in the trials.
While some of AL's judicial practices may be questionable, at bottom, the BNP wants to spare their Jamaat affiliates from possible execution for their past deeds.
>>>>>>>>> "At bottom"??? It looks like some of our Bangu folks co-written this article. However on behalf of our falled heroes of 71, we should seek justice for criminal activities (Murder, rape, looting etc). It does not matter if BNP or BAL is in power. It should be treated as a moral issue.
The AL views Jamaat as a potential disaster for democracy, much as we would if al-Qaeda were included in our elections,
>>>>>>>>>>> NO. Based on historical evidences it is safe to say this is not view of BAL. They have worked with Jamaat against dictator Ershad (Took part in a bogus election). They have worked in the same platform multiple times throughout the 90s. BAL is well known to be very "Flexible" in politics. For example they took part in movement against Ershad (The dictator) during 80s and now formed a coalition with the same dictator. Same goes for coalition with Jamaat. They were long time buddies until jamaat had the audacity to form coalition with BNP.
This political dance reminds me of the song "Krisno korle lila Khela ar ami korle......."
If our government or any organization strongly feel Jamaat should not be around, please present your case in front of public and make a stern choice. Political dance (Like Ershad) only erodes credibility.
Whatever its flaws might be, the AL is the only present-day bulwark against the Talibanization of Bangladesh.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think our people are very capable of stopping fanatics. They have good track record of standing up against them. Even recently the hefazot movement was forced to alter some of their demands (Regarding status of women in society) because of mass protest against fringe interpretation of Islam.
The contentious issue of the war crimes tribunals so dominated the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that the problem of spreading Islamism and the persecution of minorities received short shrift.
>>>>>>>>> I think protection of minority population is a fundamental right and people of Bangladesh agrees with it. So I see all people from every religion (Islam included) supporting such move.
BNP sidestepped the intolerance and disrespect for non-Muslims that is the root of the problem. It was a bizarre and revolting reversal of justice.
>>>>>>>>> If this is a "hit peice" against BNP, just say so. I am not happy to watch bundle the urgent need of minority protection with our current politics. I have NO issue if this type of article is distributed inside the country but this politics should be separated from to need to protect minorities and people with low income. I am concerned that such falsehood is being presented to US congress. ONLY true rajakars/traitors are known to do such things.
The hearing appears to have been hijacked. Hindu activists believe that a strong BNP lobby is operating in Washingto
>>>>>>>>> The Hindu activists are seeking help from Jewish lobby and India. Unfortunately they kept Muslims out of this issue (Better protection for minorities) and going no where. Long before the time when terms like Islamist, Terrorist etc was known to common people, our mainstream population stood up to seeks right to protect Bangla language and (During 71) to protect our dignity. Most of the time they had the tough reality of standing up against fellow Muslims. It is really unfortunate so called "Hindu activists" (Who claim to be from Bangladesh) do not have faith in our mainstream population. They are too busy promoting false information about Bangladesh and going to India lobby, Jewish lobby and anti-Muslim groups. Such idiotic strategies can backfire. Since the US administration is known to consistently engaged with all political groups. Thus the US administration does not share the extremely biased view of so called "Hindu activists".
It is already established that a major lobbying firm, Cassidy & Associates, represents war criminal Mir Abdul Qasim Ali (pictured left), who is held in custody in Bangladesh awaiting trial and possibly execution
>>>>>>>>> That is why it was more important to build a solid case. If the case is solid no lobby group can effect the process. However even gonojagoron mancha (Not a taleban supporter) feels government is NOT serious about war crimes tribunal.
He is a senior member of Jamaat who supports Wahhabist values
>>>>>>>>>> Did you know that the US is one of the biggest promoters of "Wahabist values" to the globe? Currently sending money to wahabists in Syria?
Apparently Hartley does not object to working for Islamists, even if they would limit his own freedom if they came to power in the U.S.
>>>>>>>>>> Limit his own freedom? This is one of the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen (Since the fictional ground zero mosque movement--a fiction supported by the same author).
An inescapable question arises: was a paid campaign waged to discredit the war crimes tribunal at the Foreign Affairs hearing in order to spare Hartley's client?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is a good question to ask and answers should be shared to people of Bangladesh. ALSO I like to know WHO is paying for such false campaign against Bangladesh? How much was paid to this fanatic zionist group to write such a erroneous article against people of Bangladesh?
Were Hindus kept off the panel so that they could not give evidence of the complete Islamist take over Bangladesh is facing, and of the persecution that minorities are suffering even now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My guess would be consistent reliance on false information by self proclaimed "Hindu activists" maybe behind this. It is very unfortunate our poor Hindus have such idiots as their leaders who cannot resists to gain political points by spoiling a just cause like protection of minorities in Bangladesh. Let me say this again, most people support protection of our minority population and our Hindu brothers and sisters should seek more intelligent leaders to make their case (Hopefully include fair minded Muslims in the process).
A similar question must be raised about the alarming editorial in the NY Times published on the same day. The Times lays the blame for Bangladesh's growing instability solely on the AL
>>>>>>>>>>> Really how pathetic is this argument? Those who live in the USA and families with NYT must be shocked (or rolling out of their chairs) with such idiotic argument. I guess this one sentence neutralize everything said before about Fictional Islamist government (Bangladesh Awami League!!).
Lastly, Ms. Brooks wrote passionately against "Ground Zero mosque", while such masjid did not even exist on "Ground Zero". Maybe member Guha should seek out better spokesperson for whatever cause he is trying to sell. It seems Guha is stuck with hate-mongers, human right violators (Zionists) or some sort of addict (No other explanation for fictional piece).
Now on a serious note, I (Along with most people I know) are very concerned about law and order situation in Bangladesh. Maybe we should form a non-political forum to raise national issues (Such as better governance and protection for minorities). Those forum needs to work with all leading political parties and get their firm commitment to take measurable actions to solve national crisis.
Renting American "Rajakars" will not help anyone or help our country.
My two cents....
Shalom!
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How Islamists Stole a Congressional Hearing
By Madeline Brooks
Not one Hindu was invited to be on the panel of speakers. The Islamists trashed the only political movement in Bangladesh that offers some hope of secularism.
Evidence suggests that an American lobbying firm working for a Bangladeshi war criminal bought influence with the hearing. The same day, the NY Times wrote a staggeringly pro-Islamist editorial, raising the question that perhaps they too were bought with lobbyist money.
On November 20, 2013, a group of loyal Hindu Bangladeshi American citizens were granted a long-awaited hearing by the U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee. The Hindus wanted to ask the U.S. to stay the hand of the religious extremists who are pushing their compatriots remaining in Bangladesh toward genocide, described more fully here.
Bangladesh is erroneously considered a moderate Muslim country by the State Department. Hindus and other minorities -- Buddhists, Christians, animists, and atheists -- live in continuous anxiety, even terror. Minorities have scant protection against Islamist depredations such as murder, rape, and burning of their houses and places of worship, as well as theft and discrimination in the Bangladeshi legal system. Protection from the police is uncertain, since Bangladeshi police often either ignore minorities' complaints or are themselves the perpetrators. This land, which was once solely inhabited by Hindus and Buddhists, now has a minority population of non-Muslims of only about nine percent. Mass murders, forced conversions, and forced flight account for the drop in numbers.
Right now is an especially frightening time for Bangladeshi minorities, because elections will happen soon. Historically, that has always meant heightened danger, with Muslim mobs attacking vulnerable minorities no matter what the outcome of the election might be.
Two major forces vie for control of Bangladesh: secularists and Muslim fundamentalists. The incumbent party, the Awami League, is nominally secularist and offers some hope for minorities. Opposing it is the Bangladesh National Party, allied with a group called Jamaat-e-Islami, which wants to impose a totalitarian form of Islam on everyone in that country. In the 1971 war of liberation, Jamaat was involved in war crimes against Bangladeshis, especially Hindus, who wanted freedom from Pakistan and Islamic fundamentalism.
The AL is currently conducting trials of the war criminals, which the BNP objects to on procedural grounds. While some of AL's judicial practices may be questionable, at bottom, the BNP wants to spare their Jamaat affiliates from possible execution for their past deeds. The AL views Jamaat as a potential disaster for democracy, much as we would if al-Qaeda were included in our elections, and is trying to keep Jamaat out of the electoral process.
Whatever its flaws might be, the AL is the only present-day bulwark against the Talibanization of Bangladesh.
The contentious issue of the war crimes tribunals so dominated the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that the problem of spreading Islamism and the persecution of minorities received short shrift. Although the BNP members did mention minorities in passing, not one Hindu or other minority was on the panel. The drift of the BNP position was that by excluding Jamaat, there would -- somehow, mysteriously -- be disturbances which would destabilize the country and affect minorities, too. BNP sidestepped the intolerance and disrespect for non-Muslims that is the root of the problem. It was a bizarre and revolting reversal of justice.
Hartley's battle to free Ali involves discrediting the purpose as well as the methods of the war crimes tribunals, thereby legitimizing Islamism and its abuses. Hartley also lobbies for Pakistan and other Islamist clients, as stated on his firm's website.
Apparently Hartley does not object to working for Islamists, even if they would limit his own freedom if they came to power in the U.S.
An inescapable question arises: was a paid campaign waged to discredit the war crimes tribunal at the Foreign Affairs hearing in order to spare Hartley's client? Were Hindus kept off the panel so that they could not give evidence of the complete Islamist take over Bangladesh is facing, and of the persecution that minorities are suffering even now? This is a very reasonable speculation, and an investigation of Cassidy's activities and finances is in order.
A similar question must be raised about the alarming editorial in the NY Times published on the same day. The Times lays the blame for Bangladesh's growing instability solely on the AL and states that Jamaat should be legitimized by including it in the upcoming elections.
Remember that Germany voted the Nazis into power. A similar fate could await this vulnerable country, already teetering on the brink of totalitarian Islam. One has to wonder why the NY Times took such a disastrous editorial position.
Madeline Brooks is a counter-jihad activist and writer, based in New York City. She can be reached at ResistJihad@aol.com.
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Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: How Bangladeshi Islamists stole a U.S. Congressional Hearing - a Madeline Brooks article
Like everyone member Guha has every right to speak up to improve human right situations in Bangladesh. However the institution he hangs around are well known HATE MONGERS.
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Oppressed Hindus from Bangladesh asked for a congressional committee hearing to make known their victimization by Islamists. They got their hearing, but they were not given a chance to speak; instead, Islamists took over.
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