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Thursday, February 27, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: context needed to understnad life of prophet Muhammad PBUH



Correction please! Peace,right should be peace right.  Monotheistic Abrahamic religions had very little tolerance towards others.

On Thursday, February 27, 2014, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

Even Christianity, which preached peace right from the beginning, had decimated Red Indians in the New World called America, blacks in Africa, and aboriginals in Australia.  Only Indians were too vast in number to be made into a demographic minority.  The followers of Islam, on the other hand, not just chanted death to others.  They decimated the Persians, Mesopotamians, and Iberians in the ancient time and Armenians in the last century.  According to the noted American Historian, Will Durant, Muslim rulers in India killed eighty millions of indigenous Indians.  In a democratic India, those who need Muslim vote prefer to forget atrocities.  In South Asia, Hindus think that they are all Aryans which they are not, Muslims think that they are mostly of Arabian descent, even the brown skinned Christians think that they are of European descent!

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On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Maybe one should start pointing out what is crude and what is not. Yes, line by line with the original quotes and see where that perfect political correctness leads us to? People, who have been chanting death to everything for centuries becoming suddenly civil and benevolent? I would not hold not my breath for such grand dream. Would anybody?
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:03 PM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Subimal Chakraborty Said: “I agree with Farida apa: crude bashing of Islam and for that matter any religion is indefensible. It is not only childish, it also provokes a fanatic and leaves in their hands 'weapons' to make an attempt to stop the progress of human thoughts and ideas. Therefore, critiquing of a religion should be objective and analytical with no preconceived hatred for it in the critic's mind.” 
 
Who hates who? I do not think anybody here hates anybody personally; people just put forward opinions. The above statement means some people have hatred against some other people in this forum. This is a misguided notion.
 
Now - what's the meaning of “crude bashing?” All we have heard so far from Ms. Majid and Mr. Rahman are terms like - “Islam bashing” and “hatred for Islam," when they run out of arguments to counter criticism. To them, every criticism of their religion is out of hatred for their religion. Now, an atheist is joining that cohort; this smells like a political stand, not ideological.
 
The fact is – criticism of one's favorite object will always hurt his/her feeling; it does not matter how objective or analytical  criticism may be. Also, how can someone defend a blind faith with a sound logic? They can't. Blind faith logic will always sound ridiculous to an open minded person. Mr. Rahman thinks that he knows the authentic version of Islam. Isn't it a ridiculous claims also? How could anyone be so sure that he/she has the most authentic version of religion, unless it's his faith.

Lately, I am hearing from Mr. Rahman that judging Prophet needs proper context. To me,


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