First of all, neither equality nor inferiority complex are necessary conditions for enmity. It is a matter of speech to say someone is his own enemy. It essentially speaks to behavior which is harmful for one’s own good. Unity is a virtue that is often missing (as you suggest). Mr. Galloway was simply stating a fact, and no one is jumping up & down. With respect to Saudi Arabia, being the keeper of the Holy Mosques, and being the largest and richest Muslim country, it is their moral obligation to protect the interests of all Muslims word wide. The western countries with majority Christian population are more united than the Islamic countries. It is widely believed among political scientists that the KSA has intentionally maintained disparity in the region to secure not only their regional power but maintain the strong hold of the royal family, and hence the long sufferings of the Palestinians, Syrians etc. vis-à-vis Israel and the USA.
Your disrespect for the Declaration of Independence of the USA – assuming it is your adopted country now, to say the least, is deplorable.
I do not wish to further engage with you on this issue. Let’s agree to disagree.
-MH
From: Shah DeEldar [mailto:shahdeeldar@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: Husainy, Mozammel
Cc: bangladesh-progressives googlegroups; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Americanbangladeshi; Rezaul Karim; Nazda Alam; BDPANA@yahoogroups.com; BANGLADESH C.FORUM; bisne boston
Subject: Re: Embarrassing video for all Muslims
"Muslims are their own enemies"
Why would Muslims be their own enemies unless some consider themselves superior to others? That is why I had to jump to the equality question. Then, you castigate Saudis for their brand of Islam and Saudi nationalism. Saudis are Muslims but you can't expect sub-continental Muslim mentality from these desert people? They are simply different people with different culture and national interests, period!
The main point has been how to unite all these Muslim populations and fight the Western interests when West itself is not an united entity? This is basically nothing but some empty talk leading us no where. Galloway gives a stupid sermon and you guys are jumping up and down.
We can talk about that beautiful Declaration of Independence (1776) crap but question is, why it took another six decades to get rid of slavery (1833). Now, if that was the end of all that Black sufferings, I would be truly happy. But it did not end there. Segregation exited up until 1960s despite all these great words from 1776 declaration. So, put that thing in box and experience the true reality of the street.
"The Muslim problem" (if exists) is not any different our equality problem. Think carefully!-SD
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Husainy, Mozammel <meh@husainy.net> wrote:
Nowhere in these threads the notion of “all are equals” have been mentioned or implied. SD is mixing up a theological guiding principle with socio-economic governance framework; none of which is the topic of this dialogue. The comments below clearly indicates the author under the pseudonym (nomdeplume) SD is no friend of Islam and has a very shallow understanding of the geo politics of the region, and is extremely divisive in nature. I wish SD would think before writing and not insist on so fool hardily making nonsensical remarks which only can be taken as coming from a semi educated eastern prick-pundit ( who does not have the courage to disclose his or her identity). Touché.
By the way, the second paragraph in the Declaration of Independence of the USA states, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.” I do not believe this to be an utopian idea promoted by the commies.
Peace!!
MH
From: DeEldar Shah [mailto:shahdeeldar@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:41 PM
To: bangladesh-progressives googlegroups; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Americanbangladeshi; Husainy, Mozammel; Rezaul Karim; Nazda Alam
Cc: BDPANA@yahoogroups.com; BANGLADESH C.FORUM; bisne boston
Subject: Re: Embarrassing video for all Muslims
"All are equals" is just another slogan with no practical meaning. This is an utopian idea, preached by the commies which has been a total failure and rightly rejected by our society.
Are all Bangladeshis equals? Are all damn Americans equals? Hell, no! Galoway is rather another loose canon with nobody to answer or report. Only if all Muslims just unite and speak with one voice, all Muslim problems will be solved? What a nonsense coming from another western prick-pundit! Can we practice that in Bangladesh? Why should Saudis carry the Muslim burden?Only great education is the true remedy. Swords are not much help in this fast moving world!
-SD
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Husainy, Mozammel <meh@husainy.net> wrote:
I do not know who the gentleman in the video is but he speaks the naked truth. Muslims are their own enemies, and I personally think that the Saudis are at the center of it all. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is both the Pump and the Pope of the Muslims, and therein lies the inherent contradiction. The Saudis never really want to help the Palestinians, because IF they did, the Islamic World, especially the Middle East would be a lot calmer and prosperous. Also, the Saudis are interested in pushing their brand of Islam – Wahabism which not all Muslims subscribe.
-Mozammel Husainy
From: BDPANA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BDPANA@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nazda Alam
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:41 PM
To: BDPANA@yahoogroups.com
Cc: bangladeshi americans; Bangladesh Progressives; BANGLADESH C.FORUM; bisne boston
Subject: Re: [BDPANA] Embarrassining video for all muslims
I agree with Mr. Galloway ; The Muslims need to stop blame game it never works and never will.
From: "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>
To: "bangladeshi americans" <bangladeshiAmericans@googlegroups.com>, "Bangladesh Progressives" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "BDPANA" <BDPANA@yahoogroups.com>, "BANGLADESH C.FORUM" <bdesh_cul.forum@yahoo.com>, "bisne boston" <bisneboston@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:12:12 PM
Subject: [BDPANA] Embarrassining video for all muslims
Please watch this passionate plea by British parliamentarian, Mr. Galloway.
Thanks.
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