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Thursday, July 31, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Misery in the Fraudulent ‘Holy Land’



Israel is opposed to a two state solution and wants to annex Gaza Strip.  Please refer to OT to find out whether they were the first to invade other people's land or not.  All three Abrahamic religions descended from the Jews, didn't they?

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On Jul 31, 2014, at 7:31 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Initially, Israelis had no intention to take more land but to live side by side with other Palestinian Arabs but that was not good enough for the whole Arab and Muslim world. So, as a hedge against any eventuality, they took more land for consolidating their bargaining position.  And there, they got stuck.  It seems like even if they would vacate all the land post 1967 war, that would not bring any peace to this holy land. People want Israelis totally out from Middle-east and that creates an existential problem for the Jews. Needless to say, Jews are not the first to invade other people' land and settle. Both Muslims and Christians are equally guilty of the same crime. Only difference is that it happened few centuries earlier.

Two state solution is the best way to go here. But with suicidal Hamas at the helm, does Israel have a choice for peace? I do not know.
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:45 PM, "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I have followed Israeli leaders, as much as I could, from Begin to Netanyahu.  They have intention of conquering all the land that belonged to them according to the Old Testament.  At present they don't have the ability.  However, even the ancient time, the Hebraic people conquered the "Promised Land" by sword from the Phoenicians.  Even their OT had its root in  Ugarit.

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On Jul 30, 2014, at 4:20 AM, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Interesting pieces of information, Dr. Das! But the Israelis do not seem to have the intent of conquering much more land than what they got right now. Obviously, they wish to live peacefully in that land with a modern lifestyle. While they are certainly very aggressive in defending themselves, looks like if the Palestinians accepted the status quo and lived in the neighborhood with no hostility, the conflict would have died down gradually. Of course, the Arabs and much of the Muslim population in the world are not ready to live in a civilized world with respect for all, women, non-believers, and believers of other religions. 


On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:45 PM, "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Every community has a separate God since the beginning of history. Even that destitute impostor Patriarch named Abraham did not have the same God as his descendants did.  The word 'God' has its root in Persian 'Godde' which means leader.  Even in Bengali, 'Paler Goda' indicates leader of the gang. A WW II limerick was "Gott strafe England/God save the King//God this and God that/And God the other thing//Good God, said God/I have cut my works down//". Obviously, God was unable to meet the demands of opponents.

The present crisis is a continuation of millennia old problems in the Middle East.  It was fueled by the discovery of subterranean hydrocarbon.  The powerful Ashkenazic Jews decided to go back to the promised land.  God of Islam forgot that promise and drove the descendants of Abraham out.  The European Ashkenazic community, by no means the children of Abraham, are back with vengeance to conquer the land which once belonged to them albeit for a short period.

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On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:17 AM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

"Why should people hate other people for God?"

You got it wrong Sir. God is rather a fake excuse here. There has been a power play going on there and I do not want to start another firestorm with my politically incorrect statement. Maybe Mr. Roy or Prof. Das have better words for this age old fight. Thank you.  
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss






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