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Sunday, November 30, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] A Copy of the Koran for Subimal Chakrabarty



Dr. Bain
Selective praising is the policy adopted by all great sensible people. I simply follow them. (But why do you think I do not criticize or hate the bad things in a religion? I am sure I do. If you want you may quote some religious teachings to check if I criticize them or not.) It is nether the matter of being politically correct nor of appeasement. It is about being respectful to someone's faith--someone who is not communal and believe in secularism. Saying to someone that his religion sucks will be totally unproductive.
Thanks for your advice. 

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On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Well, Professor Chakrabarty, I am not asking anyone to trash any religious book. I am not asking for editing any religious book either. I wrote before that those books can be in the libraries for people to read them as reference materials on human history.
 
However, I object to picking good verses from religious books to praise a religion while not talking about the garbage and hatred that those books have. This kind of selective praising, especially by otherwise secular people, encourages the religious idiots to stay in their cocoon of stupidity and hatred. So, my advice to people like you would be that if you are unwilling to trash/criticize the garbage/hatred in a religion, please refrain from selective praising. You cannot educate someone by selectively praising his/her religion when he/she believes that the religion came from what is known as God, and that everything in them is to be followed.
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
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On Saturday, November 29, 2014 5:32 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Thanks Dr. Bain. I was given the Koran as gift by a couple of my friends. My friends wanted to open my eyes so that I can see what exactly is written in the Koran. I have hardly any time or temperament to read the entire book from the beginning to the end. I have general idea what are written in holy scriptures. 

Stubborn as I am, I still believe that by trashing the holy scriptures in their entirety you will only isolate yourself from the society and that way will fail to participate in a greater movement to oppose and frustrate the evil designs by the forces of darkness which of course include ISIS. 

The Koran is Koran. To me like any other holy scriptures, it is a historical document. Any attempt to trash or rewrite it will be totally unproductive given the consciousness levels of the believers. This is true for any religion. Jefferson rewrote the Bible. That's it. The Christians do not follow his rewritten Bible. I am happy as long as the followers are using religion in progressive way. Only thing we can do is enlighten people through education. Socioeconomic conditions have also to be improved. 

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On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
I am posting this in honor of Professor Subimal Chakrabarty for the following post in which he stated, "my knowledge about the Koran is extremely limited.":
 
In this information age, learning about almost anything is possible and free. The following translation of the Koran was certified to be authentic by a religious Muslim friend of mine:
 
 
I hope Professor Chakrabarty would read it, and randomly talk about what are in the Koran. Selecting verses that sound great to praise the religion would be dishonest and a disservice to humanity, especially when too many followers of Islam, including the Islamic State barbarians, try to follow everything. To too many followers, everything in the Koran and Hadit are to be followed, irrespective of where that would take the world/humanity. (Of course, they follow without thinking; they do not have the capacity to think logically.)
 
To me, Najrul. Rabindranath, Gandhi, and many other intellectuals/philosophers/politicians were wrong when they talked about selected good parts of Islam, especially when they failed to ask people to discard the parts that can be used to make the world hell.
 
I am not interested in opening up anyone's holy book to criticize it; I want the followers themselves to try to open up their minds, to do the criticizing themselves, and to be able discard what should be discarded.
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
 




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