Conjunction between Jupiter and Venus, once every eight years, is a well known celestial event. Multiple stories of folklore and mythology have been made of it. Love between Kotch and Debjani, Ahalya and Indra, Kunti and Dharmaraj etc. are examples of Venus lore. One should consider that Kunti and Cunt are synonymous. The track of Venus can be reduced to the shape of female pubic triangle. Even Behula is Venus, as are Manasha and Sheetala, the Goddesses of snake and small pox, respectively. Male manifestation of Venus is Sukracharya, Guru of the demons. Even Indra, otherwise known as Jupiter, conjoins with him for divine knowledge. Due to it's high luminosity, Venus is Lucifer the devil in western mythology. I hope the link is clear.
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On Nov 23, 2014, at 1:18 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Indra is well known for his notoriety and corruption. Indra seduced Ahalya, wife of sage Goutam. Gods and goddesses were divided in the Trojan war. Kunti got pregnant with Karna after worshipping Sun god. There has been an interpretation that that Kunti came into physical contact with Sun to conceive.
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On Nov 22, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:"Gods and goddesses were not always compassionate and kind."I think, you are confused. Religious philosophies are for human, not for Gods and Goddesses. And, I do not know if any religious philosophies in Hinduism encourages violence against human beings. A religion that allows multiple philosophies, cannot be an authoritarian in nature, and it cannot be violent.Those Gods and Goddesses, you mentioned, are supposed to fight against devils on earth, so ordinary human-beings can live in peace. Hinduism never encouraged human-beings to fight against devils; Krishna said – He will come to fight against devils, meaning God is protector and affectionate. I hope you will understand now.Jiten Roy
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Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!
Gods and goddesses were not always compassionate and kind. They were sometimes were vindictive and cruel. They used to take sides and fought with one another. That created divisions in the society. That caused many battles. There were many divine authorities and powers. I think this led to the conception of one God and One supreme power. True, as we look around we see that the problem has not been solved.
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On Nov 22, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Yes, all monotheistic religions have roots in Paganism. In fact, all monotheistic religions must have emanated from Paganism. The so called revelation doctrine was necessary for attaining authenticity of the monotheistic ideology at that time. Also, monotheistic religions needed authoritative power of God to survive at that time and sustain its growth in the long run.So, their God is almighty, who run an autocratic religious empire, where any decent is met with dire consequences. Followers become slaves of God; they are possessive of their faiths. And, just like a jealous lover, followers can turn violent instantly when sentimental space is trespassed.Paganism and other multi-theistic religions, on the other hand, are democratic in nature, where followers enjoy freedom of choice. In here, the image of God is kind and compassionate, and followers are relatively peaceful.Everything on this earth happens out of natural cause and effect. Be that Paganism or monotheism, human ingenuity is at the root of all these ideologies.Jiten Roy
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!
A French proverb says it succinctly,"plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" - the more it changes, more it looks the same. In spite of the claim of revelation through some kind of hotline, each of monotheistic practices has roots in paganism.
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On Nov 22, 2014, at 6:45 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:What you are saying is that – these religious rituals have been adopted from some past practices of the pre-Islamic societies. It makes sense, because - earliest Muslims were all converted Muslims also. So, it was natural that – some of those earlier practices will get into the Islamic practices.Jiten Roy
