Re: [mukto-mona] Use and misuse of science in religions

I did a google search and found out that Seindenberg should be corrected as Seidenberg.

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On Nov 15, 2014, at 5:57 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Dr. Bain, please read the following comments - complement of Dr. Das:

"American mathematician A. Seindenberg has demonstrated that the Sulbasutras, the ancient Vedic mathematics, have inspired all the mathematic sciences of the antique world from Babylonia to Egypt and Greece. "Arithmetic equations from the Sulbatras were used in the observation of the triangle by the Babylonians and the theory of contraries and of inexactitude in arithmetic methods, discovered by Hindus, inspired Pythagorean mathematics", writes Seindenberg. In astronomy too, Indus were precursors: XVIIth century French astronomer Jean-Claude Bailly had already noticed that "the Hindu astronomic systems were much more ancient than those of the Greeks or even the Egyptians and the movement of stars which was calculated by the Hindus 4500 years ago, does not differ from those used today by even one minute". American Vedic specialist David Frawley has also demonstrated that the methods utilized in the building of Egyptian pyramids were also borrowed from the Hindus. "The funeral altars, for instance, he writes, which are also in the shape of pyramids, were known in the Vedic world under the name of smasana-cit"."
 

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From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Use and misuse of science in religions

 

Let me change my mind here and make a couple of more comments, due to the misunderstanding of Dr. Roy.

 

I have not actually trashed the mythical and fictional stories of any religious book. I not only see their literary values, I do recognize that many of them were ahead of their time and place in terms of thoughts/imaginations/wisdom. My problem is with today's people claiming them to have in-depth or complete knowledge/understanding of science/technology, to be complete/perfect code of life, to be worth emulating, etc.

 

Sukhamaya Bain

 

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On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:33 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Dr. Bain, there is a difference between giving due credit to some mythic/fictional literatures and believing in them as facts. Religious people tend to believe those fictional stories as facts, and educated people have the responsibility to help them be aware of their misunderstanding. Just bad mouthing them as stupid people will not do the job.

Also, educated people should know that mythic/fictional stories have literary value and usefulness in our lives. Trashing those literature as rubbish, as you do, will not make you any superior to those religious bigots. This is not the way you can remove prejudice from religious peoples' minds. As an educated people, your responsibility is to give them proper knowledge, not hatred. 

Dr. Bain, how can I or you trash something that we have not much knowledge of? With my limited exposures, I have learned that - those mythic literatures are Indian treasures, containing ocean of knowledge. Trashing them as rubbish will rather make us stupid.   

Jiten Roy

 

From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Use and misuse of science in religions

 

Let me make my final comments on this thread. The claim that the Hindu religious books have in-depth knowledge of astronomy is worse than exaggeration. It is false. Those books have no in-depth or systematic knowledge. They have wild imaginations.

 

It is wrong for educated people like us to give too much credit to myths and wild imaginations from religious books, even when we agree that imaginations are needed for real innovations. People like us need to work on removing the brainwash from religious people who falsely and exaggeratedly give too much credit to what I call "primitive wisdom" in their respective religious books, and in the process stay in their narrow cocoons of stupidity and hatred, making the world a miserable place to live in.

 

SuBain

 

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On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:42 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

"I am not inclined to take pride in some thing called Vedic math."

Look, Pal, Modi's message was for the people, like you, who are ashamed to take pride of their own heritages. When I tried to remind that point, some of you started to attack me without understanding my message. Someone even accused me of 'falsification,' which turned out to be meant for 'exaggeration.'

As I said before,