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Monday, December 15, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] God does not need religion, religion needs God



Pi is also a number. In the number system it falls into the category called irrational number. I think Ramanujan computed the value of pi with a great accuracy. 

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On Dec 14, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 


Actually, I was talking about constants, not about regular numbers. Aren't they derived from great calculations?
-SD


 
 



On Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:02 PM, "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
"Subtle is the God" - said Einstein. Presently, (s)he has become a shuttle object on the quest of existence. Numbers weren't derived from great calculations. Those are the basis of great calculations. Initially numbers were counted on the phalanges of the fingers. Only three were known. In course of time, the number of basic numbers had increased to twelve before being reduced to two in the binary math. Ghost and God ain't the same either. Ghost is a back footed illusion. In limelight, ghost recedes to invisibility, while God encompasses the universe of the believers.

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On Dec 15, 2014, at 12:14 AM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Those constant numbers derived from great calculations and seem to reflect actual reality as close as possible. How else would anybody can calculate the area of a circle? I am not sure what are we fighting about? I am lost.
-SD
 



On Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:15 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
God is not a good analogy for the number system. The number system consists of definitions, axioms, properties, rules, etc. 

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On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
What are Imaginary number? Numbers are metaphysical concept; different people represent them with different shapes, just like the concept of God; people represent God with different shapes as well. We all know the importance of numbers in our physical world. But, unfortunately, importance of God is hard to justify anymore. There is a saying like this - God becomes Ghost due to the human conspiracies. Practically, God has become monster under human conspiracies.
Jiten Roy

 

From: "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] God does not need religion, religion needs God

 
We need a lot of metaphysical concepts to explain reality, e.g., we need imaginary numbers to describe quantum mechanics of electron. That does not make imaginary number more real than unicorn.

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On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:48 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
This discussion is going towards absurdity. So, it will be better if we kill this thread now.
 

From: "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] God does not need religion, religion needs God

 
I fully understand why many people think mind is real. The problem is: a real thing does exist in reality or can be created/built with the raw materials. If a mind is real, we should be able create it. 
We can't do it right now but it would be foolish for me to say that the idea is totally impossible in the future. So, stay tuned for the future development!
-SD


On Friday, December 12, 2014 5:56 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
This should be the right approach (adopted by Prof. Das and Mr. Deeldar) to study mind as this is the scientific approach. Old fashioned and unscientific approach will take us nowhere except that it will simply help us in engaging fascinating but unproductive intellectual exercises. Number of neurons and their configuration and complexity in the brain explain many phenomena including memory and learning of our mental faculty. I will say that mind is real although not tangible as I will continue to use Metaphysics ( and hence the adjective metaphysical) as a distinct branch of philosophy that deals with subjects not within the jurisdiction of science proper particularly Physics. 

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On Dec 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Mind is rather an abstract metaphysical idea, which does not posses any physical structure except it is an embodiment of great numbers of neurons connecting to each other forming a giant network hub. A sane mind can become a cripple one with death of only few critical neurons in the temporal lobe.
So, metaphysically, we can say, it exists as




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