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Tuesday, June 16, 2015

[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Indian secularism: India is the killing field for Muslims



Well, my friend, Dr. Anisur Rahman, I actually like your questions.
 
"Anti-anti-Muslim" is a good adjective, and you are welcome to use it on me.
 
You are also right when you say "your Muslim brothers", seriously. As I say, when a Muslim took bath upstream in the river by my house in rural East Bengal, he/she probably urinated there; I had to take bath in that river; how could I think that he/she was untouchable to me? Muslims are indeed my brothers and sisters. Of course, most of them are too stupid when it comes to their religion; and certainly I am not proud of them. If I had the power, I would have Humanized them as soon as possible.
 
Now, your question of why Muslims are killing other Muslims? Here is the short version of my answer: They are too much into the irrational and unreal territory of their religion. So, they have a serious/deadly problem with people, including other Muslims, on what to do with their Allah, Mohammad, Quran, Hadit, etc. Because of their excessive religiosity, they follow or try to follow the prescriptions of their religion; and they are incapable of thinking with the common senses of right and wrong, justice and injustice, realities of the universe, etc. Without seeing natural realities, one could not advance in the fields of science, technology and other branches of knowledge, and as a consequence one would remain backward, poor, etc. This in turn, would make one vulnerable to committing criminal acts. It is a vicious cycle; and I am convinced that getting out of this cycle would require Muslims to stop brainwashing their children with Islam.
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
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On Monday, June 15, 2015 11:16 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:


OK, we will not call you, SuBain, anti-Muslim. We will call you anti-anti-Muslim. Will that make you happy? 
Now, you must be able to answer my one question. Why are your Muslims brothers - as you are anti-anti-Muslim - so angry these days? They are angry not only with Christians, Jews, Hindus, atheists and so on but also with themselves - Muslims are killing other Muslims at random! Can you offer any good, rational explanation for this inexplicable mental aberration of the Muslims? 

- AR



On Monday, 15 June 2015, 2:32, 'Sukhamaya Bain' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:


You Muslim/Islamic fanatics are talking about India being a killing field for Muslims. Why not talk about the barbarians of Bangladesh and Pakistan? For example, the non-Muslim population of East Bengal (now Bangladesh) was more than 30% in 1947. What is their percentage now? You answer, and tell the reason. Be honest if you wish to be called humans.
 
Compared to Bangladesh, India's religious minority population has not been uprooted. Ask the Indian Muslims if they would move to Bangladesh or Pakistan for an even exchange of properties. You will find out that an overwhelming majority will say no, and that they are more comfortable in India than what you are talking about. Please promote yourselves from Muslims to Humans, and work on the hatred that your community in Bangladesh and elsewhere has been maintaining against the non-Muslims.
 
Spare the rubbish of calling me anything like anti-Muslim; I do not hate any kind of people, I want all kinds of people to be just and live peacefully with all other kinds of people.
 
SuBain
 
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On Friday, June 12, 2015 11:25 AM, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:


India is the killing field for Muslims

India is the largest secular democratic country. But there are no secularism in India. It is really cruel political joke. India is the killing field for Muslims.It is a normal matter in India Government never care it,There were 13,356 serious anti-Muslims riots in 39 years between 1954 and 1992.
we continue to feed our #communal fires.We need for an effective and balanced communal violence bill.It is a sin to born as a Muslims in India. Muslims are not safe in India. Everyday Muslims are being harassed in many way. Muslims feel insecurity of their life.Our secular democracy Government are deaf and dumb about it. Its a shame for Indian secular democracy!Muslims are living as a second class citizen in India. A lot of poverty and insecurity have been persist among the large number of Muslims only because Muslims are following Islam.Population.
According to the 2001 Census, India's Muslim population was about 138 million (about 13.4% of the total population), and by 2006 the Muslimpopulation would be over 150 million.Muslims, 2nd largest communities in India.But the situation of Muslims communities most worst as per Sachar report.. What is the wrong with Muslims? Communal politics always find wrong from Muslims! They are creating anti- Muslim #propaganda for their own interest. It is very clear and most of the peoples of our country know that rashtriya sayang sevak sangh (RSS) is the root causes of communal riots and anti Muslims attitude of the government of India,. RSS was established in 1926 before independent of India by Hindu extremists.
BJP,Narendra Modi,Shiv sena, bajrang dal, vishu hindu parisad(VHP),akhil bharatiya vidyarthi parishad(ABVP),bharatiya mazdoor sangh (BMS) are following RSS and control  by RSS. BJP and RSS are the slow poison for India. Our secular Government is still silence and continue understanding politics with communal forces.Local Political parities are busy with local issues politics and national congress party is busy   understanding and balancing politics with communal parties ,organisations,groups and others local parties for their own interest not national interest.
List of major anti-Muslim riots:
 
1961: October: Aligarh
1962: Jabalpur (MP)
1964: Bhivandi(Maharashtra)
1967: Ranchi(Bihar)
1969: Ahmedabad (Gujarat)
 
1970: Bhiwandi, Jalgaon, Malad (Maharashtra)
1971: Aligarh
1978: October : Aligarh
1978-1980: Jamshedpur (Bihar), Varanasi (UP)
 
1980: Moradabad (UP)
1981: Meenakshipuram, Biharsharif, May-June: Aligarh.
1982: Meerut(UP)
1983: Nellie (Assam), 2191 people killed.
"The six-hour carnage in Nellie claimed 3,300 innocent lives."

"The Muslim immigrants of Nellie were attacked by the Tiwa ribals on February 18."
"Even after 24 years, the government has not made publice the T. D. Tewari Commission report of 1994. All the relatives of the Nellie victims received was a paltry Rs. 5,000 each. The survivors were compensated with Rs. 2,000…"

"The records at the Jagir Road police station show that 688 cases were filed agains the murderers. But only 310 were charge sheeted. The remaining 378 cases were closed because of lack of evidence." [India Today, 13 Aug 2007]
 
1983: Bhatkal (Karnataka)
1986: April: Newada(Bihar): more than 40 killed.
1987: Meerut(UP)
1989: Bhagalpur(Bihar)
 
Data released by the Ministry of Home shows that prior to Babri Masjid demolition, the percentage of Muslim victims in the riots had been 80%. [MG 1-15 Nov 2005]
 
1990-91 : Dec.- Jan. : Aligarh
1992-1993: Bombay, Surat, Ahmedabad, Kanpur, Delhi and rest of the India
 
In Bombay Riots:
Killed: 872
Injured: 1829
Missing: 443
(govt figure submitted to the Srikrishna Commission)
1997: Coimbatore
 
2000: Report by Asghar Ali Engineer
2001: Kanpur, Malegaon
Report by Asghar Ali Engineer
2002: Gujarat
In the post-Godhra riots of 2002: 254 Hindus and 790 Muslims were killed in Gujarat. A total of 223 persons have been reported missing, 2548 persons sustained injuries, 919 persons were rendered widows and 606 children were orphaned during the riots.
 
2003:
 
711 communal incidents, 193 killed, 2261 injured.
 
2004: Report by Asghar Ali Engineer
 
677 communal incidents, 134 killed, 2132 injured
 
2005: Mau (UP); Report by Saanjhi Duniya, Second Report by Saanjhi Duniya, Report by Subhashini Ali.
 
779 communal incidents, 124 killed, 2066 injured.
 
2006: Goa, Vadodra(Gujarat), May: Aligarh(UP)
Communal riots 2006 : Asghar Ali Engineer
 
698 communal incidents, 133 killed, 3170 injured.
 
2007:
 
till first quarter of 2007: 191 communal incidents, 23 killed, 611 injured. [Status paper on Internal Security Situatio by Union Ministry of Home Affairs]
 
Since 1940, 75 per cent of the causalities – in terms of lives and property destroyed during riots have been of Muslims.
(Source: Riots and its Aftermath by Shashank Shekhar)

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