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Monday, November 9, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion



2. Beef did not help

The BJP's blatant attempt to communalise the campaign – particularly in the fourth and fifth phases involving nearly half the seats – did not help the party change the course of the election and may even have further damaged its prospects. Amit Shah promised an election around the "chemistry" of Narendra Modi. What he delivered, especially at the end, was a cocktail of toxic chemicals, but even these proved ineffective in the face of the mahagathbadhan's appeal.

[Please read the article by my friend  
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Siddharth Varadarajan. Siddharth Varadarajan is a Founding Editor of The Wire. He was earlier the Editor of The Hindu and is a recipient of the Ramnath Goenka Award ...

 


http://thewire.in/2015/11/08/the-battle-of-indraprastha-is-beginning-to-take-shape-15199/

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From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion
 
 

The question is why the trouble has started in India now? Are Muslims totally innocents as Muslims say? Are Muslims totally secular as Muslims think or feel? I do see a problem there with duplicity in the light of what has been happening locally and globally. Most Muslim majority countries have no respect or regard for minority rights while Muslims want West and other infidel countries to be perfect in secularism and treat Muslims fairly? Even Muslims can't stand Muslims and Muslims fleeing from Muslim countries for better life in infidel countries. I am troubled with such dichotomy.
Eventually a cow would be slaughtered right in front of a Hindu house to test the Indian secularism. Why that should be a problem for the Hindus? The problem is not a black and white as people think.  
 






On Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:05 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
"How would you muzzle their nonviolent act of feeling sad and outrage over the state of affairs vis-a-vis beef eating in India?"
Politicians will not go against a popular demand; it's a suicidal act for them.
It will be naïve to say that ban on cow-slaughter is just against banning beef-eating. It could be supported if it was done just for the right to eat beef alone, but the issue has religious sentiment to it also. Indian liberal intellectuals are lining up to return their awards over it is a publicity stunt.
Remember the proverb – "বসতে দিলে খেতে চায়; খেত দিলে শুতে ছায়, ইত্যাদি, ইত্যাদি,"
Let's say you legalize cow slaughter. What will happen when Muslims start slaughtering thousands of cows for the EID celebration, while Hindus, in the next door, start worshiping cows for Jonmastomi celebration?
It's not as simple as many liberals may make it to be.
Jiten Roy

 

From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:51 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion

 
My following comments on the subject article in bdnews24.com are 'awaiting moderation' since the morning of November 6, 2015 (Bangladesh Time):
opinion.bdnews24.com
A raging debate has risen in India about tolerance or, as some would argue, the reduction of it in the country. The hypothesis about tolerance or intolerance can only ...


"Another mumbo jumbo write-up. What a gibberish, "Writers, poets, artists and scientists are expressing their dissent like never before by returning their awards. But had there been intolerance their views and acts would have certainly been muzzled/ tried to be muzzled."! How would you not tolerate someone giving up his/her award, Mr. Kapoor? How would you muzzle their nonviolent act of feeling sad and outrage over the state of affairs vis-a-vis beef eating in India? Lynch them like what was done to Mohammad Akhlaq in Uttar Pradesh? The reality of the matter is that India, even under the secularism-flashing political parties, has been intolerant of beef eating. The reality is that in almost 90% of the land area of India, slaughtering cow and eating beef are prohibited by law. You can read more on the subject by clicking the link below.

India surely needs to improve a lot on not imposing illogical majority and mob wishes on its citizens."

 
 
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