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Sunday, December 13, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] Scalia argues black students benefit from ‘slower’ colleges



"Once an equilibrium is achieved, the law can be made null and void."- SC

This is an illusion. Not all brains are created equal. Not all people should be given the opportunity to fly a moon or Mars mission. If we are not selecting people on the basis of their excellence at the lower level, the rockets might not even fly beyond earth's atmosphere. Please put money where mouth is! Start equalizing people at the very lower level. Even, that has not been working in the US. Needless to point out that the recent immigrants from poor Vietnam have outperformed Blacks and some indigenous US communities. One factor could be just the mentality of entitlement?
Different neuronal connections in the brains? That would be too sensitive for our politically correct forum members.



On Saturday, December 12, 2015 7:39 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Several years ago in this very forum there was a debate over the quota system. Quota system in admission to college in india was mainly discussed. I remember Mandal Commission report was discussed at that time. We saw two extreme groups when it came to supporting or trashing the report. There were some who were in between.
Personally I am in favor of quota system both in cases of admission and employment. But should 50% seats be reserved for the scheduled castes? Probably this magic number is too political and controversial. But the number should no doubt well exceed the percentage of the scheduled caste population. 

Blacks in America are no exceptions. Affirmative actions are a must in America too. I don't quite agree to 'lower levels' theory. I would not mind relaxing the requirement to a reasonable level to accommodate blacks --and indigenous Indians. Once an equilibrium is achieved, the law can be made null and void. It is a matter of spirit, compassion, and empathy. This is one way the nation can wash away the sins it has committed over the several hundred years. 

I don't agree that the blacks are genetically or inherently mediocre. All that matters is how much opportunity one gets. It takes time or maybe generations. It is a proven fact. 

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On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Well, this judge is a truly blunt one. He does not mince words. Not sure, how would you sugarcoat the obvious truth? Affirmative actions should be encouraged at the very lower level. Otherwise, the mediocrity would be the best product that a society can gloat about. People are equals, but they are not equally brilliant or successful no matter we feed them with.



On Thursday, December 10, 2015 5:44 AM, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Scalia's problem was his inability to articulate what he meant. That I believe what he meant, and I myself feel, is that each school needs to decide its minimum standard of academic background for its prospective students. Students that do not meet that standard should not be admitted, irrespective of their race, gender, national origin, etc. For diversity on the campus, that standard should not be lowered. It should be a matter of the standard of the school and fairness to all prospective students, and not about diversity on campus, or about helping any race, gender, nationality, etc.

Indeed, there are many options in the USA for students of all backgrounds; and a lot of the graduates from lower ranking schools are known to succeed in life and do better than a lot of graduates from Ivy league schools. Painting any of them in terms of race, gender etc. is not a controversy that a justice of the US Supreme Court should have getten into. 

Sukhamaya Bain

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On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 10:41 PM, "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Insensitive comment from a supreme court justice? Politically incorrect truth?








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