Obviously, the fear of immigration has broken the camel's back. Brits foresaw what was coming in five to ten years time and they put a brake on that uncontrollable development. We may not agree with their decision but we are not in position to lecture these intelligent people what is best for them. Wrongly or rightly, Brits think, many of these refugees might get fed up with boring and hardworking German life and head for charming English 'Buckingham palace' as an eventual destination. With Turks getting visa-free entry to EU countries might have made the matter even worse. Who knows? If the lady English MP had not been killed, the margin would been far wider for Brexit side.
My guess is that the EU experiment probably over with Brexit. Top EU bureaucrats are visibly furious if look at their body language. If Denmark, Sweden and Holland leave the union, watch more rats to jump from this Franco-German Titanic.
On Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:55 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
You are right, Deeldar, Brits have spoken.
One of the major issues in this referendum was the hefty membership costs Britain has to bear to maintain this social EU-club, which is under the control of the German Chancellor. Even then, Germany is screwed up under the EU. Germany has been weaker economically, and people of this country lost security under EU. As you know, when socialist Greece became bankrupt, EU, especially Germany, had to put up the bills for the bail out.
If you think impartially about this union, you will realize that – stronger European countries have become economically weaker and lost security under the EU.
Only relatively weaker countries may have benefitted from the cooperative union, but UK gets nothing much out of this union, except millions of unwanted uncontrolled visitors, who won't assimilate into the society, but possess the intention of occupying that tinny island someday.
Brits, lately, realized that country is in a suicidal track, and, started the movement to break away from the union to take control of their country. This movement is essentially against uncontrolled immigration and economic constraints under the union; Brits want their country back; can we blame them?
Also, does it matter what we, the immigrants, feel about this movement or their leader. As you see, even in this forum, immigrants are trying to paint Nigel as the buffoon, monster, crazy, etc., etc., but the fact is - Nigel is the victorious leader of the majority Brits, and, that's what counts for now.
I understand, referendum is not a legal binding, and Labor Party liberals are trying to sabotage this referendum. Only time will tell where UK end up being.
Jiten Roy
From: "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: Nigel Farage gives speech at European Parliament, causes total chaos
Look, Brits have spoken and they want to be out of EU. Why this is bad for Brits? Farage might be a bad guy but Brexit was not about Conservatives vs. Labor. Did not Cameron want to stay? Does it make him a good guy? But, Boris is obviously the evil? Is that issue so black and white? Some labor MPs wanted to get out too. Are they equally bad as Farage? I am not sure about that.
The problem with EU is that it has become a political union with pure German hegemony where Brits have been playing a second fiddle with no real power but contributing a good amount cash towards EU's coffer. Dr. Rahman took a very one sided view.
If Farage like people want to preserve their Britishness in their own country, can we really blame them?
On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 7:09 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Dr. Rahman, have you lost your mind? How did you come to the conclusion that I know nothing about the Brexit?
Do you think only people, who live there, should know about Brexit? Are you that ignoramus? Haven't you heard about 24/7 news outlets, which can disseminate real-time news instantly throughout world?
Let's see, I know that majority of Brits supported Nigel Farage, who led the Brexit referendum to a victory. I also know, you opposed Brexit, and fearful that majority of Brits are waking up to the fact that they do not like what they see around them, and they want change. They want to take charge of their country from the spoiled liberal Brits, who want wide open border for neo-immigrants, unwilling to assimilate in the society. Being a sore loser, you are fuming with anger now. And, you are fearful of the breakup of status quo, which facilitated people of your kind to squander the land. Shall I say more…..? So, you see, even from abroad, I know much more about Brexit than you. Shame on you!
Jiten Roy
From: "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: Nigel Farage gives speech at European Parliament, causes total chaos
Jiten Roy's sympathy, indeed support, for Nigel Farage is highly deplorable and despicable. Nigel Farage is a hated figure in the UK for his racist views. Jiten Roy's support for Nigel Farage is predicable, as he also supports Donald Trump and the American NRA. I wonder whether Jiten Roy is also a KKK supporter. Probably not, as his dark skin would not allow him to sit or mix with the KKK white skin humans. So my question is, is Jiten Roy trying to dye his skin to join the KKK?
Besides Jiten Roy's bigotted views, his ignorance is boundless. He makes comments about something with zero knowledge. Could he explain, on what basis did he assert that UK was exploited by the EU? Was he taking lessons from Nigel Farage? Also why does he write 'so called EU'? Is he not aware that EU is real? Is 'so-called Jiten Roy' a human being? Making assertion on an issue without knowing anything makes that person totally imbecile and stupid.
- Dr A Rahman
On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, 23:08, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Nigel Farage has taken the European Parliament by the storm after the Brexit vote. The anti-EU Ukip leader, also a prominent campaigner in the Leave movement, had a chance to speak his mind after Britain decided to withdraw from the union. SEE ALSO: The Queen's answer to how she's doing is the understatement of the year He showed up at an emergency session of the European Parliament with a Union Jack flag: As European Commission President Jean Claude Juncker said Europe "must respect British democracy and the way it has expressed its view" in his opening statement, Farage started applauding. "That's the last time you are applauding here," Juncker replied. "To some extent I am really surprised ...
Listen to what Nigel Farage is saying to the EU Parliament members; his reactions tell, it all, how UK has been exploited by EU over the years. This you won't know by reading headlines and articles in the liberal media, which are too busy predicting doom and gloom for UK, and already mourning the demise of UK, as you know.
As I understand – UK was alone before the so called EU, and survived just fine. Not only that, UK ruled the entire world once upon a time. So, in my view, this is nothing but a temporary set-back for the economy in UK, and yes, there will be hardship and sacrifice ahead, which is always the case after a status-quo is broken. There is a born again for UK, and there is a price for every gain.
Jiten Roy
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