Your thoughts are at best very incoherent and gibberish and you are not explaining them to any extent that I can understand. Nixon opened the Chinese door to take on Russians. It succeeded to isolate Russia from China and broke it with no shots fired. China and India are two different animals. One is ruled by commies and other one has been having democracy since 1947 with political and press freedom. Chinese communist party can take any decision without people mandate while Indian system does not allow that beauty. It has a parliament and things need to be discussed there before Indians can take any decision. So, please do not compare apples with oranges. Would you like to live in a communist system with no intellectual freedom or in a system where your opinion and thoughts matter?. China has amassed a huge wealth but it won't be able to reach its true potential until and unless it allows its people to practice...the true and free intellectual freedom. Dictatorship has its limits!
India does need to be the next China but a determined India, which can stand toe to toe to China. If it allows to be intimidated by China every other week... because it can't fight back China locally or globally, then it will have to dance with Chinese tune as Pakistan has been doing since Americans abandoned Pakistan. Indian economy has been doing great and it should be equipped with effective and sophisticated weapons from US and Israel so that it can take on China if push comes to shove. If Chinese attacks India, India should go for a first strike without any second thought! There is no need to follow any Gandhi doctrine anymore because it would not yield any result in this new world. India should be ready and capable to control the Indian ocean to play this global game right.As for smaller skirmishes, Yankees and Japanese will side with Indians! Mark my words because they are on the same boat.
Interesting read:http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/07/who-will-win-the-sino-indian-naval-war-of-2020/
"So, who would prevail in the Sino-Indian naval war of 2020? It looks like a close-run thing. China has numbers on its side, but India's allies include geography, land-based sea power, and silent partners such as the United States and Japan. Maybe Bambi's not such a pushover after all."
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
If.you know how to explain conudrum, all the power to you. I did discussed with a Gujrati who thought this not so much in interest of indian mass. And to think political party interest aligns with greater interst of country is naive, also doesnt explain why many political parties increasingly spending so much money and time in campaining to sell their platform. Is it because average people dont understand their best interest and or getting dumber with time.
One thing I am sure, personal preference and greed of the piwrrful weigh on the national policy , lot more than it is discussed in academic circle
Forty years ago, china's economy was smaller than India. Starting with nixon, US politicians encrouge outsourcing to china, with tax breaks. That was not exactly for the best of US, but some corporations and china. Politicians are sometimes against their own people for campaign money. Was it Eisenhowet, who warned US populatation to gaurd against its military industrial complex. Do you think Indian are more sophisticated than US in this regardl; I dont think so. Politicians in india can take them for same ride, if not longer.
If US take away tax breaks from china to pay for indian purchase ofchigh price US weapons, then you could have say Indians are astute in foriegn policy. Indian tax money for US defence stratagey is dumb to its core, but sone politicians BJP and congress leader will benefit from it; is that all of India.
My arguments doesnt fits the prevailing narratives that has been crafted for so long, so can easily be dismissed by most. Still thought, run by some of you for fun.
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Subject: Re: US building China defense, only to use India , tiwan to contain it.
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Date: Saturday, November 4, 2017, 5:12 PM
Hmm,
such a brilliant analysis from an Indian expert, who can
hardly express his ideas clearly?! What you need to do is to
study India and its politics since 1947. India was one of
founding members of non-aligned movement since Nehru time.
It stayed right in the middle and never let Yanks of
Russians to use its territory for any adventure. Do you
think Indian Chankyas are some how equal to low IQ Mullahs
of Pakistan and Bangladesh? Do you think they do not know
how to play the international game? And they survived so
far?
Can you
elaborate your scholarly thinking in details so that we can
understand what you are thinking and what you are writing?
There is no syn-crony there. Alternatively, you should get a
good reference to establish your point. From your post, I
see a title but no beef.
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at
12:37 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
China, without US investment couldnt have embark on building
milatary at a scale, that will leave Russia at distant thrid
in next four decades.
Now, these talk of containing it at the expense of Indian
economy is logical, if jungal law is logical.
US companies are ramping up their investment, even when
their govt slated China as the biggest threat after
terrorism. Centuries from now, sociologist and hostorian
will scratch their to make sense of this . Because they , so
far they view human race as the smart animal that always
beats the jungle law, that will change if they notice this
US, China relationship. Third countries like india, where
60% of people struggling to pay for basic food and health,
are just like pawn in this conundrum, but proud to part of
it. No wonder, pshycopaths of ISIS had some sucess in
fooling greater mass in their domain.
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