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Monday, April 27, 2009

[mukto-mona] Re: Allah confused

WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/51576


The word Allah is an abstract word which has many attributes as any other abstract words and Allah is not a neutral word as it has many significance to those who studied not merely read the holy book of Quran. As I said before Allah is the unified theory or code name for the natural events.

Whether Allah, is the God of Mecca? as suggested by Mr. Kamal Das, has no relevance of what the word Allah in and of itself stands for. Or whether the Almighty God undergoes metamorphosis (mutation or transmutation) in biological sense, is, also irrelevant, because the word God and Allah in my view are not the same thing in terms of the meaning each of these words convey.

Can an abstract object a word Allah or any other, undergo metamorphosis stages like a caterpillar into a butterfly as suggested by Mr. Kamal Das? How?

Would you mind in describing how the Almighty God undergoes metamorphosis and can you delineate in what relation the word Allah and God are same thing in terms of the meaning of the word and then describe the process or stages of metamorphosis?

The distinction between Allah vs God must be presented or expected of him as a meaning as well as stages of metamorphosis that he thinks occurs to Almighty God. And what relation in meaning of the word Almighty God and the word Allah are the same thing?

Before one can determine the meaning of a word, we need to understand what is the relation called "meaning". I mean, what kind of object a word is when considered simply as a physical thing, apart from its meaning. Let's us say, the word Orwell or Napoleon or Machiavelli means a certain person. In saying this, we are asserting a relation between the word "Orwell" or "Napoleon" or "Machiavelli" and the person(s) so designated.

Can Orwell, Napoleon, and Machiavelli undergo metamorphic changes and become the three divine sons of Jahelian's gods for a period of time until people realise that those are fuax gods? As jahilian people would do any thing to satisfy their urges even by cracking a coconut in front of their gods but won't realise they themselves have no spirit(nuh)?

Were Ashgar, Kamal and Cyrus the three idols planted in the house of Kaaba and worshipped by the people of darkness until Prophet Mohammad's revelation and subsequently, enlighten people removed those idols from the house of prophet Abraham's? or Was it Allah who disowned those idols or the people of Mecca had decided not to worship those man-made idols anymore as it has no spiritual values in them? Even those enlightened Veda's people never worshipped idols of which kamal das seems to be so enamoured!

BTW lack of clarity in meaning can hinder good reasoning and obstruct effective communication. One way to make meaning clearer is to make definitions. The definition is the term that is to be defined. For example, in defining bachelor to mean an unmarried man. So the definition of the word bachelor is defined as an unmarried man.

Similarly, Allah is an abstract word stand alone or without its meaning attached to it. And the definition of the term Allah is defined as the Nur in the Quran. and to understand what is the Nur, one needs to understand what is not Nur. For example, the sun is siraj and the moon is muneer in Arabic. The sun's light or the moon's reflected light are not the Nur's light rather it is without it. The implication of Nur in Quran is refer to the dark matter and this Nur does what it will. The Nur's light upon sun's light which is hidden in plain view and most of us are not aware of its significance. And Quran has defined this Nur as to be Allah's definition. It is Allah's law causes an apple to fall from a tree as it is the same law that moves the sun, moon and the earth.

Now the question is: what does the word Almighty God defined to Mr. Kamal? Please share with us and enlighten us as I don't disparage knowledge. I asked this question because in my memory (nufs or database or soul - in my repository) does not have the word God or gods, as I don't believe in the concept of God or gods/goddess; hence i won't criticize (i.e. judge) it. So I suspended my judgement or criticism and left it for Mr. Kamal Das to define the word God (not in relation of Allah) as it is or in and of itself stands.

A specific question what does the word God means to him that he said that the Allah is the God of Mecca?


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