[ALOCHONA] Re: Corruption of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh & Seikh Mujib?

Dear Alochok Shafiq

The people of East Bengal did not follow Mujibur Rahman for the sake of better bridges, culverts and ports. Nor did Bangladeshis turn against Mujibur Rahman because of ruined bridges, culverts and ports.

Here is an over simplification:

Up till independence the people of East Bengal had a vision of a Bangladeshi - strong, indpendent, proud, patriotic and honest. That vision was encapsulated in the personage of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. Our people saw qualities in him that inspired them to move forward to independence. He was indeed our greatest hero.

After independence the moral authority of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman collapsed with the rise of Bangladeshi corruption and Bangladeshi injustice. Our vision of the super Bangladeshi collapsed just as our vision of sheikh Mujib collapsed. We expected so much and got little - and thats how we have been ever since. Now we expect little and get little. We lost real hope. This almost makes Mujib our greatest villain.

And yet it must surely be too much for a single man to bear the full responsibilty of our decline since our greatest hour.

We owe it to ourselves, to the fallen and our children - to do far, far better than we have been doing.

Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@...> wrote:
>
>  
> Ah, presumptuous!
>  
> Maybe you have glut of your own guilt of association, not mine. I can speak freely, I pay no debt to any political affiliation.
>  
> If you were born in 1974, you were born as a 100% malnourished child, except chubby Seikh Hasina & Seikh Rehana, everyone sufferred. It was 100% mockery for Mujib's  depiction of 'sonar bangladesh'. There were many political misadventures by Seikh Mujib, forming dictatorship, from a democracy. If BAKSAL was still alive, Awami League will not ascend to power today, it would be a 'Hitlar's Canary'!
>  
> Well, there were progress made since 75. Despite all the corruptions and anamolies, we haev itched some progress. It could be better, if there were no corruption. I do not think Bangladesh will be ever corruption-free, not in our lifetime! I strongly condemn Prince Tareq Zia, BNP paid heavy price for his stupidity and corruptions. People rejected them handily! Politics of blood-lineage should stop in Bangladesh, Prince Tareq, Prince Joy should not have any place in our politics! Maybe I am just whining, that's their paternal right!
>  
> A strong oppostion party is good for the democracy to flourish! There is no need to crash the oppositions. In our country, we victimize the others those who disagree! You can smell the revenge in the street of Dhaka after Hasina won landslide victory, definitely Jamaatis will pay dearly! BNP can be easily disorganized and be beaten, most BNP supporters are driven by greed and opportunist! Definitely Awami League is more interested to take a shot at Jamaatis! Gleeful Hasina can happily sip revenge, this is her chance!
>  
>
>
> --- On Fri, 5/15/09, shafiq013 <shafiq013@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: shafiq013 <shafiq013@...>
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Corruption of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh & Seikh Mujib?
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 2:02 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> You said Sheikh Mujib liberated Bangladesh from Paki's opperation. Are
> you saying it in full sense? Your school of thought don't want to admit
> this even.
>
> Even, if we take your argument that Shekh Mujib was a failure and that
> from 1972-75, as a nation we did not progrsss by any measure. By which
> measure we have progressed post 1975. If by progress you mean Koko
> Shipping Company, if by progress you mean Dandy Dyeing, if by progress
> you mean Khamba Company, if by progress you mean owning not one but two
> palatial houses (what ever may be the circumstances and reasons), yes we
> have progressed a lot. I am not here to defend the mistakes and blunders
> committed from 72-75. But some good things were also done during that
> time. And where is our sense of direction post 75.
>
> But I agree with you that anybody should be punished if he has committed
> war crimes. The trial should be against individuals not against any
> political party.
>
> Regards
>
> Shafiq Ahmad
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Â
> > Truth is hard to swallow! Seikh Mujib created his legacy by his own
> doing! Yes, he liberated Bangladesh from Paki's oppression. But, Seikh
> Mujib immensely inflicted pain upon the wounds of his own
> people, by his own greed!
> > Â
> > History need to be revisited to learn lesson, Seikh Mujib is not
> 'infalliable' ! Not able to criticize any historical facts is dubichuary!
> It simply dishonest to deny the facts of the past!
> > Â
> > If you look around the planet for similar freedom of struggle, we,
> Bangladeshis still grapple for our place in history. The principal
> reason for cessation from West Pakistan was economical oppression and
> legislative digression. The aftermath of independance, the regime of
> Seikh Mujib was an utter failure. From 72-75, as a nation, we did not
> progress by any measure. The ineptness of the regime mirred the country,
> people's life did not get any better! I understand the limitaion or
> resources, but, at least we could expect the new leadership to set a
> direction for the country in the new horizon. Instead, Mujib circled
> himself with his relatives like Gazi Golum Mostafa (Kombol Chora),
> culminating more affable leader like Tajuddin, Nazrul etc.
> > Â
> > During 71, if Azam et el commited any 'war crime' they should be held
> responsible. I have no 'itch' for that! Opposing a war and commiting
> 'war crime' are two different things! If AL wanted to punish anyone
> for their alleged participation in autrocities, they should be done in
> the rule of law. There is no need to politicize the victim. If anyone
> found guilty, they should be liable for their action. As a party, Jamaat
> bear no responsibility for some memebers' guilt. Seikh Hasina and AL are
> dragging the process to gain undue political advantage.
> > Â
> > No one should take revenge, we should persue the persuit of justice,
> that's the mantra!
> > Â
> > Â
> > Â
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 5/13/09, shafiq013 shafiq013@ . wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: shafiq013 shafiq013@ .
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Corruption of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh &
> Seikh Mujib?
> > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 3:50 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Starting with your ending, you said "It would have been a different
> Bangladesh if we had a capable leadership for newly liberated
> Bangladesh!"
> > You spit all your venom against Sheikh Mujib. It seems you are very
> well aware of the history of Bangladesh but do have some allergic
> problems. Â One of the poorest regions of the earth devastated by 9
> months of civil war can expect problems of much higher magnitude. But I
> will not argue with you as I know it is not of no use doing it. However,
> may I ask you if you have ever thought of repairs of all bridges and
> culverts like Bhairab Bridge, cleaning and making operational of the
> Chittagong port which was inoperable due to war, surrender of arms by
> Mukti Bahini and not to talk about withdrawal of Indian Army. All this
> in three and half years. No no, sorry you cannot even visualize that. I
> think Prof. Ghulam Azam should have taken the leadership of Bangladesh
> at that time. Your bad luck, he was enjoying his time during that period
> in Islamabad.
> > You are right. Let justice prevail. You cannot write the history of
> Bangladesh without Sheikh Mujib and without the mention of Ghulam Azam
> but with different reasons.
> > In the end may I ask you again, the possibility of the trial of war
> criminals disturbs you immensely. Any personal reason?
> > Regards
> > Â
> > Shafiq Ahmad
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@ ...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, one had to look at the corruption of Seikh Mujib and his cult
> of followers from 72 to 75.Mujib is responsible for the biggest
> political crime in the history of Bangladesh, banning the democratic
> process, creating Natszi BAKSAL, one party, one leader, dictator Seikh
> Mujib.
> > >
> > > Seikh Mujib and his cronies killed Siraj Sikdar, maimed and
> mutilated many members of opposition party. Inept governance of Seikh
> Mujib responsible for Famine in '74, millions lives lost and displaced
> during the famine!
> > >
> > > Let justice prevail, Seikh Mujib should be responsible for the
> autrocities during his regime, extra-judicial killings, looting crores
> of taka from state treasury by Seikh Kamal!
> > >
> > > Along with Azam, Mujib should stand trial!
> > >
> > > It would have been a different Bangladesh if we had a capable
> leadership for newly liberated Bangladesh!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Cyrus thoughtocrat@ ... wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Cyrus thoughtocrat@ ...
> > > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Corruption of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 9:25 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am glad that you, with your "pure" mind, still walk amongst us,
> honoring this earth with your very existence, and vocalizing the "truth"
> that is practiced and preached by the holiest of congregations,
> Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh. After all, Islam and Jamaat are synonymous,
> and whatever Jamaat does must be Islamic. Who else can uphold the
> ultimate truth of "Islam", generously handed down to us by the holy
> family of the Saud, and supported by our brothers and sisters in the
> land where infidels are trying to eliminate our comrades, the Taliban?
> > > ÂÂ
> > > By believing in Jamaat, I see the light of hope at the end of the
> tunnel of despair. No....wait.. .that's the light of an incoming train!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Mohammed Ramjan mramjan@hotmail. com>
> > > To: group Alochona alochona@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:29:12 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Corruption of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Corrupt minded people cannot see the beauties of Islam and its Jamat
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > >
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com
> > > Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:06:39 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Corruption of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No "bro"! Those who are covering up jamaat and its spawns would have
> no "salvation" at all, whether here or hereafter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Nirob Dorshok <nistabdhota@ yahoo.com. au>
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > > Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 7:33:20 PM
> > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Corruption of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How much you spend to concoct such lies and triggerÂÂ
> your propaganda machine against jamat as this forum can see you only
> bashing jamat. carry on bro you got a good mission. who knows this might
> be your means of salvation in the hereafter... .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Shamim Chowdhury veirsmill@yahoo. com>
> > > To: Shamim_Personal veirsmill@yahoo. com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, 18 April, 2009 8:48:50 AM
> > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Corruption of Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > UNMASK THE REAL FACE OF JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI BANGLADESH .
> > > Chashi Kollan Shomity a fake corruption cell of Jamaat-e-Islami
> Bangladesh led by war criminal Moulana Yousuf.
> > > Video link:
> > > Investigative Report By ETV: Click here
> > > Shamim Chowdhury
> > > Maryland, USA
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chat right from the comfort of your inbox. Show me how..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.
> > >
> >
>

------------------------------------

[Disclaimer: ALOCHONA Management is not liable for information contained in this message. The author takes full responsibility.]
To unsubscribe/subscribe, send request to alochona-owner@egroups.comYahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alochona/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alochona/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
mailto:alochona-digest@yahoogroups.com
mailto:alochona-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
alochona-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/