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Tuesday, May 19, 2009

[ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why?

The allegations are indeed absurd. I am a member of the Pakistan Defence Forum where I have posted in excess of 2800 posts in 2 years which according to their rules qualifies me to be a Major-General (not of their army but of the forum - it is merely a gimmick). There are of course several hundred Indian members of that forum who have posted in excess of 6000 posts and are designated as full Generals. It does not seem to trouble them that they are so designated and they are never accused of being ISI agents or Pakistan dalals. Why is it possible for Indian members to freely write on PDF but not Bangladeshi members? There are also dozens of Bangladeshi members of PDF who have no problem on the matter and contribute regularly to the forum. I am a member of that forum to represent Bangladesh views and interests. I am also a member of Bangladeshi, Indian, British, US and Chinese forums. Why does not my detractors disclose this information rather than just my postings on PDF?

It is clear that I have hit on an important point hence the virulent and slanderous attacks upon me. Did India deliberately divert a section of our military for training exercises in West Bengal to prevent an effective response to the mutiny by our armed forces? There was certainly some indecisiveness and hesitancy about taking a military option on the mutiny and this may have been due to having our crack troops and senior officers not being in Dhaka. By attacking me personally certain members here are trying to distract the discussion on an irrelevant point. I request that everyone concentrate on the original question I raised and not waste time on idiotic allegations of some Indian stooges.


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "nistabdhota" <nistabdhota@...> wrote:
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> Hi Shamim:
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> That is absolutely absurd and indeed slanderous. This forum must not a
> haven of fools to swallow whatever you feed. We know where you come
> from. Well, anyone who reads your e-mails in series can easily
> understand your mission and motif. No wonder if MBI Munshi turns to you
> as an ISI guy simply because his service is opposed to your great vested
> interest. I don't want to even mention what your vested interest is.
> I would rather leave with all Alochoks to read last 10-20 of your
> e-mails that will unequivocally expose your mission, vision, motif and
> vested interest. If your statement that MBI Munshi is an ISI member
> holds true then you must be one of the fore-runners of RAW. Why do you
> feel so nervous, perturbed and agitated when the role of India or its
> intelligence is at issue? Remember, your ignominious blame game on
> Munshi or such other patriotic intellectual fellows will never derogate
> from their position rather expose your monstrous agenda assigned by RAW.
> Cool down man, and try to realize that if you are a Bangladeshi, it is
> Bangladesh that deserves your allegiance and not India or any other
> country. BTW, we are still in dark as to what point you wanted to make
> out of your attribution of MBI Munshi to ISI in your reaction to his
> writing below on the issue of BDR mutiny. All people of Bangladesh
> irrespective of different political orientation believe that the mutiny
> was an outcome of a conspiracy. All people, except BAKSALite-BALists,
> believe this was an Indian conspiracy which I believe is subject to
> probe and yet to be proved. MBI Munshi didn't try to establish any
> further than this. However, we fail to understand why his thesis hits
> your sentiment to the extent that you had to brand him as an ISI man.
> Only a thin-skinned RAW appointed agent can react like this. Why you
> need to defend India even at the cost of Bangladesh's interests? You
> still claim as the pioneers and champions of our independence and
> sovereignty while treat those who defend the interests of Bangladesh as
> agents of Pakistan simply because they cannot afford to barter the
> interests of Bangladesh with India's?
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> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Shamim Chowdhury" <veirsmill@>
> wrote:
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> > Every reader must be aware of MBI Munshi and his ISI/Pakistan defense
> > connection. MBI Munshi works as SENIOR MEMBER with a rank of Major
> > General of Pakistan Defense Forum <http://www.defence.pk/forums/> .
> > Please go to this link to know about his long Pakistan ISI connection.
> >
> > Link: http://www.defence.pk/forums/members/mbi-munshi.html
> > <http://www.defence.pk/forums/members/mbi-munshi.html> . Once you take
> > his background in consideration, you will understand where his write
> up
> > is paid from.
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> > Thanks
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> > Shamim Chowdhury
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> > Maryland, USA
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "M.B.I. Munshi" MBIMunshi@ wrote:
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> > > It seems that the just released army probe report into the BDR
> mutiny
> > > missed an important element concerning the indecision in taking an
> > > offensive military option against the mutineers. From the executive
> > > summary that appeared in virtually all the newspapers there was no
> > > mention of the cause for indecisiveness and lack of preparation and
> > > readiness of military equipment and weaponry. It appears that many
> of
> > > our senior military officers were in India on a joint training
> > exercise
> > > during those critical days. Was this mere coincidence or a
> pre-planned
> > > exercise to divert a section of our officers and soldiers away from
> > > Dhaka in those critical days? I will leave that to the readers to
> > decide
> > > but I think the nation deserves an answer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > India, Bangladesh continue joint military exercise despite mutiny in
> > > Dhaka
> > >
> > > NEW DELHI, Feb. 26 (Xinhua) -- India and Bangladesh continued their
> > > first joint military exercise in West Bengal's Jalpaiguri district
> > > Thursday despite an on-going mutiny in Bangladesh, reported the
> > private
> > > Indo-Asian News Service.
> > >
> > > The Indian Army, Air Force and Bangladesh Army started on Feb. 22
> the
> > > two-week exercise "to test their battlefield tactics," said the
> > report.
> > >
> > > "The exercise is not in any ways affected by the developments in
> > > Bangladesh," the report quoted an unnamed senior army official as
> > > saying.
> > >
> > > Indian Army and Air Force personnel held a firepower demonstration
> at
> > a
> > > firing range Tuesday, while some of the most powerful weapons in the
> > > Indian armoury, like Bofors guns, T-27 guns from the artillery and
> > > MiG-27, MiG-17 and Cheetah helicopters took part in the exercise,
> said
> > > the report.
> > >
> > > The exercise is also aimed at anti-terrorist purposes to fight
> > > "terrorist and insurgency problems", said the report.
> > >
> > > Thousands of Bangladesh Rifles para-military soldiers staged a
> mutiny
> > > Wednesday in Dhaka against to press for a series of demands
> including
> > > increasing salary and getting better facilities.
> > >
> > > http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/26/content_10903673.htm
> > > <http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/26/content_10903673.htm>
> > >
> >
>


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