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Thursday, September 30, 2010

Fwd: Fwd: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: Teachings of Krishna to help build secular Bangladesh





---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Javed Ahmad <javedahmad@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: Teachings of Krishna to help build secular Bangladesh [1 Attachment]
To: qrahman@netscape.net
Cc: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>


Dear Br. Rahman, Salaam!

Thank you for your input on this matter. The original message was my initial reaction upon reading the news. Yes, we could shed 'benefits of doubts' to save Sahara Khatun, but the bottom line is, by stating those remarks she has shown the world where she stands when it comes to Islam.

The message is clear in the Qur'an when verse 3 of chapter 5 says, "...This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion..." There is no need for a Muslim to back track to older religion to learn from what Lord Krishna said. As you pointed out quite nicely that all that has been said by Krishna has been repeated later by other prophets!

Islam asked Muslims to promote "Islam" as a way of life, not secularism or any other ideologies. Chapter 16, verse 125 of the Qur'an says it clearly, "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance." I have addresses this matter in one of my papers "Politics, secularism and Islam", which i snow available at http://javedahmad.tripod.com/islam/politics-secularism.htm

As a Muslim, she should do some home work on Islam before going out in public and spread nonsense. Otherwise, she would just offend the practicing Muslims and would find herself in deep trouble not only in this world but also in the here after. Dr. Zakir Naik of Peace TV has a long lecture on similarities between Islam and Hinduism; she should see it and listen to it carefully to understand the matter. There is nothing new Lord Krishna can teach a Muslim.

All religions came from the same source - Allah. But they came at different times at different regions and for different people, language and culture. Islam being the last and final revelations and a culmination of past religions. It was necessary as all the older religions were corrupted and no longer spreads the truth. Still for the sake of research and understanding with whatever is remaining there could be worth looking into, but not necessary. Here is my paper on this subject http://bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidRecord=322970

The followers themselves no longer knows what contains in the religion that they believe in and practice. As a result I had to write the paper "When religion is just a label" now available at http://javedahmad.tripod.com/islam/label.htm . If we understood our own religion instead of listening to the priests and rabbis and imams we could ourselves make this world a better place today.

I totally agree with you when you said, "Islam is more than saying quick salaams. We have to take time to learn about others and reflect teachings of Islam in our lives. Our last prophet of a man of peace and mercy to all living creatures.  When our lives starts reflecting the beauty of Islam, we are going to have a beautiful Bangladesh. InshAllah!!"

Hope Sahara Khatun and her "secular loving team" gets this message and enrolls into some Islamic schooling before blundering again. Only a few days ago while talking to someone who knows Begum Hasina closely told me that she is a God fearing person and recites the Qur'an everyday and very punctual in her job showing respect to the people around her. If that is the case, then I wonder how come she picked up someone line Sahara Khatun who is totally ignorant about Islam? Wassalaam!

--- On Thu, 9/30/10, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: Teachings of Krishna to help build secular Bangladesh [1 Attachment]
To: javedahmad@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 2:13 AM



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From: <qrahman@netscape.net>
Date: Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: Teachings of Krishna to help build secular Bangladesh [1 Attachment]
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com


 
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Actually she was talking about "Teachings" of lord krishna. Unfortunately most Bangladeshi Muslims and Hindus do not know much about their faith outside of social rituals. Just to be fair to Sahara Khatun, in this case she did not advocate Hinduism or secularism.

I have serious doubt she knows much about what she was talking about beside using Hindus as her "Vote Bank". Politicians of all nations uses certain people to advance their own goals. That is a systemic flaw of modern democracy [Albeit it is the best form of representative systems].

 I am attaching a nice article about Hindu lord "krishna" to this mail. You will find amazing similarities in lives of prophet Moses (PBUH) and "Sri Krishna".

It is important for Muslims to have some basic understanding of Hinduism and Christianity. And minorities of Bangladesh should have some basic knowledge of Islam. It will help us to understand each other and stop us from being abused by politicians or religious opportunists.

If we look into scriptures, we are going to see similarities among all major faith groups. For example the "Brahma Sutra of Hinduism" (Similar to Shahada/kalima in Islam) is pretty close to Islamic Shahada

"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"

"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."

Consider the following verse from the Gita:

"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."
[Bhagavad Gita 7:20]

The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. 'gods' besides the True God.

Here holy Gita is telling us not to get too much into idols rather focus on the source of all power----One true God.



Islam is more than saying quick salaams. We have to take time to learn about others and reflect teachings of Islam in our lives. Our last prophet of a man of peace and mercy to all living creatures.  When our lives starts reflecting the beauty of Islam, we are going to have a beautiful Bangladesh. InshAllah!!


And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allah, lest they insult Allah wrongfully without knowledge. Thus We have made fair­seeming to each people its own doings; then to their Lord is their return and He shall then inform them of all that they used to do.
[
Al Qur'an 6:108]


O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well ­Acquainted with what you do.
[ Al Qur'an 5:8]

-qr

-----Original Message-----
From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 25, 2010 12:29 pm
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: Teachings of Krishna to help build secular Bangladesh

 
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From: Javed Ahmad javedahmad@yahoo.com

"Home Minister Advocate Sahara Khatun yesterday said the teachings of Lord Krishna will play a positive role in building a secular and digital Bangladesh. "Lord Krishna taught us to punish the evil and nurture the good for establishing a peaceful society," she said..."

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=155586

Note: The name "Sahara Khatun" implies that she is a Muslim, but advocating for Hinduism and secularism? I do not understand why do people who does not believe in Islam keeps a Muslim name and works against Islam? There is "no compulsion in religion", she is free to quit Islam is she doesn't like it!

You are welcome to read the following articles:

1. Politics, secularism and Islam:
http://dailyalochona.blogspot.com/2010/07/alochona-fwd-politics-secularism-and.html

2. Identifying a Muslim: http://bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidRecord=332778






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