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Wednesday, October 6, 2010

[ALOCHONA] Fwd:Evangelist leads 'disinformation campaign' on Obama: Religion professor





What else they distort?

The "black guy" in America cannot catch a break!! He defied all odds and became the president of the US but could not stop media distortion of his OBVIOUS religious identity. Those who live in the US knows the controversy with his pastor and how people tried to score political points with few lose comments by Obama's pastor. If he was not a Christian, why he was attending church for so many years?

The "White America" cannot tolerate taking order from a mulatto .

And all those talk about free speech. Are they free speech or hate speech? Click here to see another group targeted.




 
  Aug 20, 2010

Evangelist leads 'disinformation campaign' on Obama: Religion professor

 
Rev. Franklin Graham, shown here at a NASCAR race, says Obama was 'born Muslim' and appeared to doubt Obama's Christianity. Religion professor Stephen Prothero says Graham is spreading 'disinformation' about Christianity and Islam, which Graham once described as
By Chuck Burton, AP
Rev. Franklin Graham is leading a "disinformation campaign" against President Obama by attacking Obama's Christian faith and distorting Islam's theology, says a leading religion professor.
 
After CNN's John King gave Graham a full news cycle to raise a lifted eyebrow at President Obama's Christian profession of faith, Stephen Prothero, religion professor at Boston University, came on King's show Friday night to undercut Graham and question why CNN would ask an evangelist known to slur Islam, to speculate on its theology.
 
According to a transcript released by CNN, Prothero, author of God is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions That Run the World, told King, the finding in a recent survey that 18% of Americans believe Obama is Muslim ...
... is because we have people who are supposed to be responsible public leaders, like Franklin Graham, who are spreading what seems to me like a sort of disinformation campaign... What Franklin Graham should say: 'Barack Obama says he's a Christian, he's a Christian, end of story.'
Prothero also pointed out that Obama prayed with Franklin and his father, America's most famous living evangelist, Rev. Billy Graham, in May but Franklin still repeatedly used the "if" word to answer King's questions Thursday on whether Obama has accepted Christ.
Prothero said:
Franklin Graham doesn't seem to be interested in focusing on preaching the gospel of -- of Jesus. He wants to be spreading misinformation about the religion of Islam.
... Why are we listening to Franklin Graham?
 
 
Prothero, who also wrote a book on Americans' ignorance about their own faith traditions as well as those of others (Religious Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know -- And Doesn't) told King,
.. it doesn't help the conversation we need to have as a public about Islam to be having people who are just basically spreading falsehoods about the tradition.
We should be listening to Muslims about their tradition. We should be listening to scholars about their tradition. But we shouldn't be listening to Evangelical preachers who are out to trash the Muslim religion in order to gain some political and perhaps religious advantage.
Prothero also pounced on Graham for cherry-picking quotes from the Quran that highlight violence. (In U.S. Protestant culture, picking quotes out of context from the Bible to prove a point is called "proof-texting."). Prothero highlighted
... shared beliefs and practices across Christianity and Islam. And we shouldn't be talking about the worst of the tradition of Islam and comparing it with the best of the tradition of Christianity.
When Jesus says, "I come not to bring peace, but a sword," is it fair to say, oh, Jesus is out to kill people?
No, because you read that in the context of the whole Bible. You read that in the context of the Christian tradition. That's how you need to understand passages in the Quran, is in the context of the whole Quran and in the context of the whole Islamic tradition.

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KingdomCome (42 friends, send message) wrote: <1m ago

MAObama believes in COLLECTIVE SALVATION which is against the bible and deemed EVIL by the Pope.
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Is Obama Catholic?

Thomas Jefferson didn't believe any of the miracles in the bible. Struck them out in ink.

Isn't it nice to be in a country where there is freedom to believe such deviant thoughts... ?

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Wasn't Thomas Jefferson a slave owner who treated black people like one would treat cattle?
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I certainly hope not, considering he had a long-term relationship and fathered a child with a slave.

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When his father-in-law, John Wayles (1715-1773) died, Thomas Jefferson, through his wife, inherited the estate and the debts that came with it. To settle the debts, Jefferson sold dozens of slaves. In letters to his brother and an overseer, Jefferson reveals both his recognition of the property value of slaves and a human concern and respect for the unity of a slave family.....

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KingdomCome (42 friends, send message) wrote: 3m ago
I have a free will to do as I please......I choose to be obedient to God.....Getting sexually excited is just as much a choice as who that excitement is directed at....
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So what you are saying, Kingdom, is that sexual attraction has nothing to do with instinct. And that someone without the knowledge of God would, as follows, be confused about how to procreate.

Really?

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What I am saying is that I have control over my body and my urges......

Not surprising that you find that so difficult to believe....

It is one of my many gifts from God.....
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90 percent of Americans lust. The other 10 percent are liars.

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100% of people like you manufacture information and statistics to make themselves seem far more knowledgeable and intelligent than they really are....

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Rob77a (14 friends, send message) wrote: 6m ago



"...Obama's actions/words directly imply that he is a Christian who respects Islam, Judiasm, and the spectrum of Americans in this country..."

The only truth on this topic.

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Ariis (47 friends, send message) wrote: 6m ago
GlenShell (0 friends, send message) wrote: 2m ago
What is the prerequisite to being a christian? Simple! Demonstrating you walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. Now does President Obama demonstrate this? Each of us can answer that easily for ourselves, we sure as hell don't need some professor to answer that nor should he tell us what Rev. Graham should give as an answer, but then if you don't give the answer the professor believes you fail, I'm glad I'm not his student.

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And we don't need Graham telling us either

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redishblue (78 friends, send message) wrote: 7m ago
KingdomCome (42 friends, send message) wrote: 14m ago
redishblue (78 friends, send message) wrote: 2m ago
I have a free will to do as I please......I choose to be obedient to God.....Getting sexually excited is just as much a choice as who that excitement is directed at....
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So what you are saying, Kingdom, is that sexual attraction has nothing to do with instinct. And that someone without the knowledge of God would, as follows, be confused about how to procreate.

Really?

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What I am saying is that I have control over my body and my urges......

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Then back to my original question that it appears now you sidestepped. Have you had sexual urges toward a person of the same sex?

I'll make it easy for you. I have not. I have only been attracted to women. Therefore, I never was faced with the 'choice' of homosexuality.

Were you?

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KingdomCome (42 friends, send message) wrote: 9m ago
WayneMcK (12 friends, send message) wrote: 7m ago
KingdomCome (42 friends, send message) wrote: 15m ago
redishblue (76 friends, send message) wrote: 1m ago
KingdomCome (42 friends, send message) wrote: 17m ago
redishblue (76 friends, send message) wrote: 2m ago
Why would Graham hold that being Muslim is inherited, while being gay is a choice?

Would anyone w/ more than a third grade education buy it?

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A person is born into the faith of his parents until he is able to decide for himself/herself......

Homosexuality, on the other hand, is a lifestyle choice made only when one is of age or maturity to engage in such behavior......
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Graham spoke of a Muslim 'seed' passed on by the father.... who DID NOT RAISE Obama.

And here's a question... could you (yes, you personally) learn to get sexually excited by a member of your same sex?

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I have a free will to do as I please......I choose to be obedient to God.....Getting sexually excited is just as much a choice as who that excitement is directed at....

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If you think getting sexually excited is a choice, you obviously haven't seen Jennifer Lopez in a low-cut dress! Maybe your problem is that you need a little more "excitement" in your life. You might not be so wound up, then.

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You and I are clearly at different ends of the maturity and self-control scale......

Maybe when you grow up and become and adult you will learn to respect yourself and others for how God created you......

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redishblue (78 friends, send message) wrote: 10m ago
Tbonds,

Cut the other portions of Graham's interview as well as his inflamatory post about 'renouncing Islam' and "I can't say that he hasnt..."

But to you question... to pose the joining of one institution as the renunciation of another is divisive and hostile. And yes, it applies just as readily to Christian demonations... which were historically believed that their differences were big enough to kill over.

Obama's actions/words directly imply that he is a Christian who respects Islam, Judiasm, and the spectrum of Americans in this country.

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GlenShell (0 friends, send message) wrote: 10m ago
What is the prerequisite to being a christian? Simple! Demonstrating you walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. Now does President Obama demonstrate this? Each of us can answer that easily for ourselves, we sure as hell don't need some professor to answer that nor should he tell us what Rev. Graham should give as an answer, but then if you don't give the answer the professor believes you fail, I'm glad I'm not his student.

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KingdomCome (42 friends, send message) wrote: 14m ago
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Freedom1791 (0 friends, send message) wrote: 10m ago
MAObama believes in COLLECTIVE SALVATION which is against the bible and deemed EVIL by the Pope.
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Is Obama Catholic?

Thomas Jefferson didn't believe any of the miracles in the bible. Struck them out in ink.

Isn't it nice to be in a country where there is freedom to believe such deviant thoughts... ?

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Wasn't Thomas Jefferson a slave owner who treated black people like one would treat cattle?
__________

I certainly hope not, considering he had a long-term relationship and fathered a child with a slave.

 
P Think Green
 



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