Touching facts while talking faith is not acceptable to many Muslims even though they jealously guard their personal freedom but behaves otherwise when certain aspects of Islam is discussed. The fatwa factory of Deobond was never a friend of the Indian Muslims. This is a citadel of ignorance which always tried to separate the Indian Muslims from the mainstream Indian society. The legacy of the painful poverty of the Indian Muslims is not a concern for this century Deobond institution. The successive Indian governments pampered the heavy weight mullahs of Deobond just for political purposes.
Deobond is infamous for churning out fatwa's which were sometimes useless, confusing, socially repulsive and illogical.
No civilized nation wants to be ruled by a parallel legal system but the fatwabaz mullahs always take advantage of the prevailing ignorance and fear among the Muslims and doing their business as usual. Even the modern governments in the Islamic countries succumb to these fear mongering half educated mullahs. No sensible person can call this situation a victory for Islam; rather it should raise concern and be considered a challenge for a progressive society.
There can't be a status quo between dogmas and our urge to embrace enlightenment.
Akbar Hussain (It's not a pseudo name. The hell will mostly be filled by the munafiques)
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: qrahman@netscape.net
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:23:02 -0500
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] FW: OPEN LETTER TO DARUL ULOOM DEOBAND FROM BHARATIYA MUSLIM MAHILA ANDOLAN
Farida Majid
>>>>>>>> Dear Alochok,
I agree that, lack of knowledge about authentic Islam is a problem in Bangladesh and many other countries. There are good people among us who are trying to address this issue with Islamic sources. I have copied a mail from a different forum where a valid "Islamic" explanation was given to make that so called "Fatwa" invalid. This was posted by Mohammad Choudhury.
Well known Islamic scholar Dr. Zakir Naik also said the same thing about "Talaq" in Islam.
There are good men and women among us who have good knowledge of Islam, we need to support them in confronting such social issues.
From your prior posts I have a feeling that, you have concerns about status of women in Bangladesh. I feel that if you stay away from verbal assaults [ jehadi Islamists comprised of completely brainwashed hijabized zombies.] and show respect to these people and Islam, your words will have more traction in hearts of Muslim men and women. You know the old saying you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
There are serious ignorance about religion in developed countries as well. If people of good will want to correct this situation, we have to use our knowledge [ NOT force or insults] to address this important issue.
Allah (SWT) also taught us how to make effective presentation and show tolerance to people at the same time.
Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.
And if ye do catch them out, catch them out no worse than they catch you out: But if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient. And do thou be patient, for thy patience is but from Allah; nor grieve over them: and distress not thyself because of their plots.For Allah is with those who restrain themselves, and those who do good. [ good to other people]
[ The noble Qur'an 16:123-128]
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From: Mohammad Choudhury <msuc@hotmail.com>
To: history_islam@yahoogroups.com <history_islam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 8:25 am
Subject: RE: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] Muslim man told his divorce joke on Skype stands
Jokingly saying something without intention shall not be counted and considered as real oath in Islam. This is clearly mentioned in the Qur'an: "Allah will not call you to account for that which is unintentional in your oaths, but He will call you to account for the intentions in your hearts. And He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing." [2:225].
Accordingly, jokingly writing divorce without intention is not accountable to Allah and divorce is not materialized. Therefore, the fatwa given by the Darul Uloom Deobandi seminary in northern India is not valid. The "Talaq" has not been done. "Talaq" in Islam is not that easy. That is why and whole surah was revealed on "Talaq"...Surah 65.
Marriage is a solemn responsibility for the the husband and wife and it is a sign of Allah (swt) that He put love and mercy between their hearts (30:21). For any dispute, Allah has guided the couple with the verse 4:34...Men take care of women – since God has endowed some with qualities that differ in degree, and since men spend from their financial resources. The righteous women are obedient (to God), and during the absence (of their husbands), they honor them according to God's commandment, even when alone in their privacy. As for those women who bring about in you a fear of disloyalty, you shall first advise them. Then (if they continue), you may desert them in bed. Then, (if they continue), you may leave them [i.e. divorce them, our traditional mowlanas will tell you this meaning as "beat" them which is not true (see below)]. If they obey you, (however,) then you must not do any wrong against them. God is Most High, Supreme.
The root word "Daraba" used in this verse has several meanings as given in the Qur'an:
- To travel, to get out: 3:156; 4:101; 38:44; 73:20; 2:273
- To strike: 2:60,73; 7:160; 8:12; 20:77; 24:31; 26:63; 37:93; 47:4
- To beat: 8:50; 47:27
- To set up: 43:58; 57:13
- To give (examples): 14:24,45; 16:75,76,112; 18:32,45; 24:35; 30:28,58; 36:78; 39:27,29; 43:17; 59:21; 66:10,11
- To take away, to ignore: 43:5
- To condemn: 2:61
- To seal, to draw over: 18:11
- To cover: 24:31
- To explain: 13:17
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 27, 2010 2:34 am
Subject: [ALOCHONA] FW: OPEN LETTER TO DARUL ULOOM DEOBAND FROM BHARATIYA MUSLIM MAHILA ANDOLAN
Farida Majid
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:54:35 -0800
Subject: OPEN LETTER TO DARUL ULOOM DEOBAND FROM BHARATIYA MUSLIM MAHILA ANDOLAN
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