Mr. Ejazur
I agree and I disagree with you. To me it really does not matter if someone is a blind supporter of AL and BNP or for matter a blind opponents of AL and BNP. I really enjoy their postings though sometimes it amazes me to see how low a man can go in praise and in oppose of a certain group. I feel that I cannot counter argue as the guy seems a die-hard supporter or opponent. However, every game has some rules. Does not mean that you start dragging in religion, knowingly or unknowingly disrespecting it, even if all your ammunition has exhausted.
Regards
Shafiq Ahmad
>
> Yes Shafiq. Really.
>
> Lets assume you are a blind supporter of AL or BNP for the sake of
> arguement. Can you imagine what kind of criminality or absurdity it
> would take for your to speak against the leadership of your party? Can
> you imagine the degree of stubborness and pig headedness that would
> define your blind support? Why, even murder would not make you flinch.
>
> But bring in religion and you would get all sensitive and righteous. As
> if, perhaps, you showed some respect to your faith in your daily
> dealings or in your daily support for people who act against the very
> ethics of this same religion.
>
> Such is our condition. And in this condition, as a blind supporter of AL
> or BNP, you would make the wildest extrapolations humanly possible. To
> counter this extrapolations of religion are valid - because they are
> actually quite harmless. Nothing can really penetrate the thick and
> stupid skin of the blind supporter of AL or BNP.
>
> Lets assume you are a blind supporter of AL. There is no murder
> committed in our fair land, or its borders, for which you will ever hold
> the machinery of AL accountable. Impossible. Inconceivable.
>
> And so, because, via your mock religious sensitivity, you pretend that
> religion shapes your value set, the same value set which helps you
> tolerate any manner of nasty criminality in the name of AL or BNP,
> religion is a valid tool with which to try and pry your thick skull
> open.
>
> Don't take offence please. I am saying this assuming you are a blind
> supporter. Which of course you are not.
>
> I have know many people who if confronted by a grandson of the Prophet
> would snort indignantly: "So what? Who does he think he is? We don't
> believe in kingship. I don't owe him anything. Islam is truly democratic
> so I don't give a damn whose grandson he is."
>
> But confronted by the grandson of Mujib or Zia, the same blind supporter
> of AL or BNP would cream his pants, be unable to speak and seamlesly
> assist in conferring the greatest power in the land to this person. And
> never complain of any murder committed in this particular grandson's
> name.
>
> And still pray five times a day and be, apparently, hyper sensitive
> about Islam.
>
> Uber bullshit. Deshi style.
>
> Ezajur Rahman
>
> Kuwait
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" emanur@ wrote:
> >
> > I tend not to stray into religious arguments because they are somewhat
> > pointless. But as a Muslim I have to say that this is exemplary of why
> I
> > stay away from such arguments. The mention of Islam makes some people
> > super-sensitive. Why is that? Is our faith that weak?
> >
> > Please remember that Arabic is a language and as such, many ideas can
> be
> > expressed in it including a translation of "In the name of
> Bangabandhu...."
> > - I don't suggest that my satirical construct is accurate!
> >
> > In any case, no disrespect of Islam was done in my piece. If anything
> it
> > should have appealed to Muslim sentiment to recognize and reject
> idolatry
> > when its spitting in their face. The fact that so many are unable to
> do so
> > suggests that there is a lack of Muslims in Bangladesh....and if not
> > anything else, certainly they are not the majority!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of shafiq013@
> > Sent: 04 February 2011 23:37
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Naming Dhaka as" Mujib Nagar"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Really!
> >
> > I thought Mismillah, Quran, prophet are part of a religion. The
> religion of
> > Islam.
> >
> > Op! May be I am little bit old to understand it. If the mission is to
> > redicule someone, there are many other ways.
> >
> > So carry on. Carry on with your "very logical extrapolations."
> >
> > Shafiq Ahmad
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" emanur@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think this is bringing in religion. Rather its a very a
> > logical extrapolation of the way that many regard Bangabandhu. It
> > demonstrates how ridiculous and perhaps dangerous this concept is. It
> has
> > allowed many to sanitise, rationalise, obscure and generally brush
> under the
> > carpet responsibility for the malaise that is our country today. It
> allows
> > us to settle for less.
> > >
> > > Yes, the majority of Bangladeshis are Muslim.
> > >
> > > Ergo the majority of Bangladeshis should be offended by this worship
> > and the immorality and corruption it breeds and feeds.
> > >
> > > Joy Bangla...?
> > >
> > > Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shafiq013@
> > > Sender: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:54:22
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Naming Dhaka as" Mujib Nagar"
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Eman
> > >
> > > You frustration is understood. May be you are sour for some personal
> > > reasons. However, may I request you, very humbly, don't drag in
> > > religion in your discussion, at the least in this way. Not only it
> > shows
> > > your disrespect to religion of Islam but also indicates you have
> > nothing
> > > much to say. Even if you are not a Muslim (though your name suggests
> > you
> > > are), please show your respect to the religion of the majority in
> > > Bangladesh. You may hate Awami League or Sheikh Mujib for some (may
> > be)
> > > valid reasons. You have every right to express your viewpoint but it
> > is
> > > really a shame to bring-in religion in this way.
> > >
> > > Shafiq Ahmad
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" emanur@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree although the Buriganga with its effluence and waste may be
> > the
> > > most appropriate choice.
> > > >
> > > > I also propose that "Bismillah..." be removed from the
> constitution
> > > and replaced with "bismilbangabandu.....".
> > > >
> > > > To seal the deal, all references to the Prophet should be removed
> > from
> > > a new and official BAL version of the Quran as neither he nor the
> > > Almighty had any contribution to the glorious independence war, you
> > know
> > > the Bangabandhu v Pakistan war where one man single handedly
> defeated
> > an
> > > entire army.
> > > >
> > > > Joy Bangla!
> > > >
> > > > Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sajjad Hossain shossain456@
> > > > Sender: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:29:17
> > > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Reply-To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Naming Dhaka as" Mujib Nagar"
> > > >
> > > > In order to pay our indebtedness to Father of the Nation,
> > Bangabondhu
> > > Sheikh
> > > > Mujibur Rahman I propose to change the name of Dhaka to "Mujib
> > Nagar"
> > > > and "Bay of Bengal" to "Bay of Bangabondhu".
> > > >
> > > > Any comments from the Alochoks?
> > > >
> > > > SH
> > > > Toronto
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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