A general avoidance of religious arguments cannot necessarily prevent one from touching upon the religion of those who have brought such disaster upon us. It depends upon how bad one thinks the situation is. One need be sensitive about the religious feelings of those who practice one set of ethics in public life and espouse a different set of ethics on the prayer mat. Rather, the verbal mocking of their interpretation of their faith is required in proportion to their mockery of the faith in public life.
No on is mocking faith itself. And the words of the Quran are more messed upon by the visits of frauds to Shahjalal's grave before the election and Holy Mecca after the election. Those who are most offended by the use of religious terminology against the ethical values of AL and BNP are only blind activists of these parties.
Religion is a very sensitive issue? Only for the religious. I see no religious people leading AL or BNP. The gravity of ritual prayer is not enough to outweigh the gravity of ritual rottenness. People are very sensitive about religion:
… but not the blind party activist
And even if he is, he sure isn't one willing to die for something as noble as religious principle. He's too dumb and too rotten for that.
When religion will really takes offence at the assault upon its very essence by our political culture you will know it my friend. For it will not reply by email or argument. It will not complain about the use of a word in the Quran to make a point against the current religious hypocrisy of our leaders. Nor will the reply be defined by idiots who don't know how to use a firecracker.
And so Zia puja and the tawafs at Tungipara continue.
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, shafiq013@... wrote:
>
>
> I believe you are coming to some senses now. When you don't tend to
> stray into religious arguments then why mock someone, who ever he/she
> may be, using religion. Understand that religion is a very sensitive
> issue, people do die for religion but your faith seems very strong.
>
> Yes, I do remember Arabic is a language. Bismillah_____ are words of
> Quran. If you are Muslim as you claim you are, even if the purpose was
> to create some satire, you should refrain from disfiguring the words of
> Quran. (By the way bismilbangabandu....." does not mean "In the
> name of Bangabandhu...."). But your faith seems very strong.
>
> Realize, this is a forum of very limited people. Not everyone in
> Bangladesh and/or Bangladesh origin is readings all the postings in this
> forum. People do ignore also considering it is coming from _______. You
> are right majority of Muslims in Bangladesh have shown no comments on
> your writing. The reason you know because your faith seems very strong.
>
>
>
>
> Shafiq Ahmad
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" emanur@ wrote:
> >
> > I tend not to stray into religious arguments because they are somewhat
> > pointless. But as a Muslim I have to say that this is exemplary of why
> I
> > stay away from such arguments. The mention of Islam makes some people
> > super-sensitive. Why is that? Is our faith that weak?
> >
> > Please remember that Arabic is a language and as such, many ideas can
> be
> > expressed in it including a translation of "In the name of
> Bangabandhu...."
> > - I don't suggest that my satirical construct is accurate!
> >
> > In any case, no disrespect of Islam was done in my piece. If anything
> it
> > should have appealed to Muslim sentiment to recognize and reject
> idolatry
> > when its spitting in their face. The fact that so many are unable to
> do so
> > suggests that there is a lack of Muslims in Bangladesh....and if not
> > anything else, certainly they are not the majority!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of shafiq013@
> > Sent: 04 February 2011 23:37
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Naming Dhaka as" Mujib Nagar"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Really!
> >
> > I thought Mismillah, Quran, prophet are part of a religion. The
> religion of
> > Islam.
> >
> > Op! May be I am little bit old to understand it. If the mission is to
> > redicule someone, there are many other ways.
> >
> > So carry on. Carry on with your "very logical extrapolations."
> >
> > Shafiq Ahmad
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" emanur@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't think this is bringing in religion. Rather its a very a
> > logical extrapolation of the way that many regard Bangabandhu. It
> > demonstrates how ridiculous and perhaps dangerous this concept is. It
> has
> > allowed many to sanitise, rationalise, obscure and generally brush
> under the
> > carpet responsibility for the malaise that is our country today. It
> allows
> > us to settle for less.
> > >
> > > Yes, the majority of Bangladeshis are Muslim.
> > >
> > > Ergo the majority of Bangladeshis should be offended by this worship
> > and the immorality and corruption it breeds and feeds.
> > >
> > > Joy Bangla...?
> > >
> > > Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shafiq013@
> > > Sender: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:54:22
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Naming Dhaka as" Mujib Nagar"
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Eman
> > >
> > > You frustration is understood. May be you are sour for some personal
> > > reasons. However, may I request you, very humbly, don't drag in
> > > religion in your discussion, at the least in this way. Not only it
> > shows
> > > your disrespect to religion of Islam but also indicates you have
> > nothing
> > > much to say. Even if you are not a Muslim (though your name suggests
> > you
> > > are), please show your respect to the religion of the majority in
> > > Bangladesh. You may hate Awami League or Sheikh Mujib for some (may
> > be)
> > > valid reasons. You have every right to express your viewpoint but it
> > is
> > > really a shame to bring-in religion in this way.
> > >
> > > Shafiq Ahmad
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" emanur@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I agree although the Buriganga with its effluence and waste may be
> > the
> > > most appropriate choice.
> > > >
> > > > I also propose that "Bismillah..." be removed from the
> constitution
> > > and replaced with "bismilbangabandu.....".
> > > >
> > > > To seal the deal, all references to the Prophet should be removed
> > from
> > > a new and official BAL version of the Quran as neither he nor the
> > > Almighty had any contribution to the glorious independence war, you
> > know
> > > the Bangabandhu v Pakistan war where one man single handedly
> defeated
> > an
> > > entire army.
> > > >
> > > > Joy Bangla!
> > > >
> > > > Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sajjad Hossain shossain456@
> > > > Sender: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:29:17
> > > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Reply-To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Naming Dhaka as" Mujib Nagar"
> > > >
> > > > In order to pay our indebtedness to Father of the Nation,
> > Bangabondhu
> > > Sheikh
> > > > Mujibur Rahman I propose to change the name of Dhaka to "Mujib
> > Nagar"
> > > > and "Bay of Bengal" to "Bay of Bangabondhu".
> > > >
> > > > Any comments from the Alochoks?
> > > >
> > > > SH
> > > > Toronto
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > [Disclaimer: ALOCHONA Management is not liable for information
> contained in
> > this message. The author takes full responsibility.] To
> > unsubscribe/subscribe, send request to alochona-owner@!
> > Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > If this email is spam, report it to
> >
> https://support.onlymyemail.com/view/report_spam/OTg3NzY6MTIzMTYwNjk0OTp\
> lbWF
> > udXJAcmFobWFuLmNvbTpkZWxpdmVyZWQ
> >
>
__._,_.___
