US is stuck with Pakistan because its a foolish country and can not tell friends from foes. My comments are inserted below.
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Isha Khan <bdmailer@...> wrote:
>
> *Why We're Stuck with Pakistan*
>
> By Aryn Baker / Islamabad Thursday, May 12, 2011
>
> When the U.S. confronted Pakistan after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11,
> 2001, there were no discussions of common goals and shared dreams.
.
TURKMAN: Yeah USA had not asked Pakistan, living off Charity of Aid and Loans since 1950's about its expansionist goals and dreams of defeating USA like she claims to have defeated USSR in Afghanistan. Goals and Dreams of all little virgins like Pakistan should be promised first after finding out that ISI Chief had sent the $ 100,000 in 9/11 Ring Leader's Bank Account in USA.
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There was
> just a very direct threat: you're either with us or against us. Pakistan had
> to choose between making an enemy of the U.S. and taking a quick and dirty
> deal sweetened with the promise of a lot of cash.
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TURKMAN: And Pakistan Army took the money on promise of co-operation instead of opting out for getting bombed to Stone Age by USA.
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In the end, Pakistan's
> cooperation was a transaction that satisfied the urgent needs of the day,
> brokered by a nervous military dictator, Pervez Musharraf, who failed to
> explain the value of the U.S. relationship to his people. That allowed a
> theme to become fixed among Pakistanis: the war on terrorism was America's
> war. When Pakistani soldiers started dying in battles with militant groups,
> when suicide bombers began killing Pakistani civilians, it was America's
> fault because it was America's war.
>
TURKMAN: How come hardly any Soldiers were dieing against MokTi BHayini? Why Pak Army had to fight with Enemies of Taliban instead of Taliban in the name of fighting with Taliban? How many Punjabi Soldiers have died fighting Enemies of Taliban compared to how many Pak Civilians have been killed by Taliban on Pay Roll of Pak Army?
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> So as Pakistanis processed the mission that killed Osama bin Laden, many
> concluded that they had been betrayed by their supposed ally. How dare the
> Americans sneak into the country without so much as a warning and conduct a
> military operation just 75 miles (120 km) from the capital?
.
TURKMAN: But had not there been a secret Agreement between Pakistan and USA that USA had a right to strike Al Qaeda and Taliban anywhere in Pakistan? Had not been Pak Army tipping off the Culprits, whenever such Attacks were planned? Had not all such previous raids rendered unsuccessful because of Pak Army's backstabbing of USA?
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But they felt
> betrayed too by their military. How could it be that Pakistan's armed
> forces, which claim a lion's share of government spending, were clueless
> about the presence, a mere mile from the country's most prestigious defense
> academy, of the world's most wanted terrorist? Cyril Almeida, one of
> Pakistan's best-known opinion writers, summed up the national anguish in a
> column: "If we didn't know [bin Laden was in Abbottabad], we are a failed
> state; if we did know, we are a rogue state."
>
> Pakistan is a bit of both. It's not hard to detect dysfunction in a state
> where the military controls foreign policy, national security and an
> intelligence network so pervasive that no dinner guest at a foreign
> journalist's house goes unscrutinized. The civilian government, hobbled by
> incompetence and corruption, has no power and, even worse, no backbone.
.
TURKMAN: Because Pakistan is an Army Staged Democracy to keep getting Charity of Aid and Loan. Remember, UN Sanctions, loss of membership in Commonwealth etc, when that country goes under direct Military Rule?
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In
> tea shops and on street corners, Pakistanis' frustration with their
> leadership collides with their inability to change it. Instead they lash out
> at the U.S. for reminding them of their failure as a nation.
>
TURKMAN: We know, because if they lash out at their gods in Military they get shot at and Balochis have been the target for last few years getting killed for doing this. All Ethnic Groups except for the group of Army gods, the Punjabis have never faced any Bullets.
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> The consequence is what Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, in an
> interview with TIME, calls a "trust deficit" with the U.S. Gilani insists
> that he can't mend the relationship with a wave of his hand. "I am not an
> army dictator. I'm a public figure," he tells TIME. "If public opinion is
> against [the U.S.], then I cannot resist it to stand with you. I have to go
> with public opinion."
.
TURKMAN: Yeah but Public Opinion has been against Pak Army also. How come he never utters a word against it? Why he only lashes out at USA to make Pak Army happy if he does not work for it?
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In a May 9 speech to Parliament on the Abbottabad
> raid, Gilani accused the U.S. of violating Pakistan's sovereignty and warned
> that Pakistan had the right to retaliate with "full force" against any
> future incursions. Others are more blunt: "To hell with the Americans," says
> retired Brigadier General Shaukat Qadir, a popular columnist and regular
> guest on TV talk shows. "We need to reconsider our relationship."
>
TURKMAN: Obama should also reconsider relationship with blackmailing backstabbing Pakistan and just bomb the shit out of Pak Army.
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> In Washington, that sentiment is echoed in Congress, where lawmakers are
> demanding to know why a country that has received more than $20 billion in
> U.S. aid over the past decade shelters and arms enemies of the U.S. even as
> it purports to hunt them down. "I think this is a moment when we need to
> look each other in the eye and decide, Are we real allies? Are we going to
> work together?" said Speaker of the House John Boehner.
>
> It's not just the rhetoric that's heating up. Each side seems eager to poke
> the other in the eye. The U.S. has launched drone strikes at several sites
> in Pakistan since the Abbottabad operation, knowing full well that these
> will infuriate the Pakistani military, which sees them as a violation of
> sovereignty. For their part, Pakistani officials have told ABC News that
> they may give China parts of a destroyed U.S. stealth helicopter left behind
> at bin Laden's compound.
>
> Yet for all the anger in Islamabad and Washington, neither nation has much
> of a choice. However duplicitous and volatile it may be, the U.S.-Pakistan
> relationship is central to the interests of both countries.
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TURKMAN: Oh yeah. Stupid USA needs a backstabbing blackmailing friend like Pakistan for sure and Pakistan needs a stupid like USA.
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The U.S. needs
> Pakistan's help to be successful in Afghanistan.
.
TURKMAN: USA had already succeeded in Afghanistan until Pakistan had started infiltrating Pakistanis called Taliban back in to Afghanistan. Does USA need this kind of help?
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Pakistan provides, among
> other things, a vital transit link for goods destined for coalition troops
> in the landlocked country.
.
TURKMAN: But keeps blowing up NATO Warehouses, Convoys and has stolen 10,000 Containers filled with NATO Supplies. USA does not need Pakistan because countries north of Afghanistan have replaced Pakistan now, including Russia.
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But even without Afghanistan, the U.S. would need
> Pakistan to be stable. The alternative â€" a collapsing nation awash with
> terrorist groups and possessing a nuclear arsenal â€" is too awful to
> consider.
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TURKMAN: The best solution is to bomb Pak Nukes and Pak Army and then create a dozen new countries to end rule of Punjabi JehaaDis spreading Terrorism all over the world. Punjabi Army can afford all that because it has been stealing money of rest of Non Punjabi Pakistanis.
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How real is that prospect? "Pakistan is passing through one of the
> most dangerous periods of instability in its history," warns Anthony
> Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "[It] is
> approaching a perfect storm of threats, including rising extremism, a
> failing economy, chronic underdevelopment and an intensifying war, resulting
> in unprecedented political, economic and social turmoil."
>
TURKMAN: B.S. Pak Economy is booming. Export increasing by leaps and bounds. GDP is more than double since 2001. Export has tripled thanks to Export Concessions provide by USA from all countries of the world. I am not reading rest of you B.S. because you are highly un-informed person.
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> Calabresi and Mark Thompson / Washington*
> http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2071005,00.html
>
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