Hannan is an incorrigible fool. Spanish looted South America in the name of Christianity, Arabs did the same in the name of Islam to the Persians and Egyptians. What were the roles of Sultan Mahmud, Muhammad Ghori, Alauddin Khilji, Nadir Shah, Muhammad shah Abdalli etc. in India. Even the Sufi saints colluded with them! What does the Sura Anfal all about? Is it not how to share the loot from the opponent. Was it not revealed after the caravan of Abu Lahab, uncle and former brother in law of the prophet, was looted. If religions in general upheld the moral values, states all over the world would not be guided by the Roman laws mostly made by Augustus.
[Attachment(s) from S A Hannan included below]
Religion is the basis of life, it generates values and make people moral. Secularism fails to do that. Secularism creates selfish and consumerist people. Atheism has never been basis of any civilization. Abuse of religion is an aberration and not the norm, it can be controlled.
Islam in particular and all religions in general uphold moral values. Their leaders have explained the so-called misconceptions or contradictions.
Please read the attached article.
Shah Abdul Hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:58 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: Is Religion a Crazy-Glue?
There are many people who believe religion creates a bond between co-religionists. Is this just another 'faith,' which has no basis, much like religion itself?
Even though we provide examples after examples indicating contraindications, yet they will find some excuses to keep their faith alive. You have heard many times the same argument – Oh, they are just a few misguided ones. My question is - why do religions create such misguided people, in the first place? There must be something that is misguiding people. Instead of fixing the source of the misconception, often people support the source of the problem saying that – they are just a few, and it's not a problem. So, the misconception remains alive forever. This is a universal problem with all religions. I am not trying to isolate any particular religion here.
The universal truth about all religions is that – they are full of contradictions and misconceptions, which will always misguide people. The bottom line is – all religious people are suffering from eternal confusion, and the psyche of a religious person is entrapped in a cocoon. It is hard to get out of it. Religion is really a crazy-Glue?
Jiten Roy
--- On Wed, 9/28/11, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: The sprit of Bangalee nationalism?
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 4:01 AM
This is not fairy are diluting the substance of the argument by some erratic actions of a section.
Shah Abdul Hannan.
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:33 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: The sprit of Bangalee nationalism?
Mr. Hannan,
Yes, religious bond is so strong that hundreds of innocent Muslims in Pakistan are dying regularly in bomb attaks by Muslims with strong religious convictions.
How is that religous bond working in Pakistan ?
Jiten Roy
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: The sprit of Bangalee nationalism?
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 7:48 PM
Mr Shubimol Chakrabarty, yes, religion is the strongest bond of nationhood compared to other bonds .Mr Jinnah said that Muslim majority areas should form independent state and Hindu majority areas of subcontinent should form another state and in both states minorities would remain there with all human rights.
Shah Abdul Hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of subimal chakrabarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:17 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: The sprit of Bangalee nationalism?
Pretty funny! What kind of statement is this?
What about the bondage between Muslims and Hindus of Bangladesh? Is it "thin"? Do they belong to "Bangladeshi jati"?
Do Hindus of West Bengal and Muslims of West Bengal belong to "Indian jati"? Is it "thin" or "thick"?
I think the purpose of Mr. Hannan's statement is to fish in the troubled waters. He is thinking more in terms of religious divide. This reminds me of Jinnah's Two-Nation Theory. Mr. Hannan seems to be talking in the same line. According to Jinnah all the Indian Hindus constituted one nation and all the Indian Muslims constituted another nation. He forgot about other religious groups.
Pretty funny!
Mr. Hannan should recognize that religion is only one element (it may even be absent) in the structure of a nation. Hindu majority India and Hindu majority Nepal did not form one nation. All the Christian dominated countries in Europe did not form one nation.
From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: The sprit of Bangalee nationalism?
There is no Bangalee Jati as there is no Gujrati jati or Bihari jati or punjabi Jati Bond of unity of bangla speaking Muslims of Bangladesh and Banglaspeaking Hindus of West bengal is very thin.They belong to Bangladeshi jati or Indian jati respectively. For becoming jati you require much stronger bond.
Shah Abdul hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:58 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: Is Religion a Crazy-Glue?
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