Ahmadia issue is a sad case. I do not support chasing them and attacking their masjid. At the same time average non-Muslim may not know that, Ahmadiyas have some fundamental differences with core teachings of Islam. If they are desperate to be known as "Muslims" they can call them as "Ahmadiya-Muslim". Also it is critical that, these people are protected and free to practice their faiths. If Muslims are so disturbed by what Ahmadiya's are practicing, they can sit with them and explain what is wrong with the message of Mirza Gulam Ahmed (Founder of Ahmediya movement). Muslims from all over the world do not agree with interpretation of Mirza Gulam Ahmed. So this is a case of simple "Honesty in labeling".
Also I just get tired with our obsession with Pakistan. From the people who still are emotionally attached to everything Pakistani and those who will not leave any stone unturned to blame Pakistan for everything that goes wrong in our country. We used to be part of Pakistan 40 YEARS AGO. It is history and we should move on to better things (Like improving our country).
Have a nice day......
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Re: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
Maybe you are frustrated with current situation of Bangladesh ( Like millions of other Bangladeshis) but there is no constitutional obstacle for non-Muslims from becoming head of state. In fact if Bangladesh can get around electing anyone outside of prominent political families that will be a huge leap forward. As long good people ( Like the recent Narayangong mayor election) gets elected good thing will happen to Bangladesh.
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It will be naive to think that Bangladesh is far behind the Pakistan, as far as those points are concerned. Many of those conditions do prevail in Bangladesh, either explicitly or implicitly. For example, there is no possibility of a non-Muslim President in Bangladesh, Ahmadiyas are not recognized as full-Muslms and threat against them exists, Bangladesh has unofficial blasphemy law and Fatwas (Sharia), etc., etc.
The reason for Bangladesh lagging Pakistan, in some of those conditions, is due to the qasi-secular politics of Awami League. Give a few years of power to BNP/Jamat; they will catch up with Pakistan pretty quickly. They are all waiting in the queue at the door-step. Bangladesh is, in fact, sitting on the active volcano.
Jiten Roy
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Sukhamaya
Just sit down and reflect. You will come up with many more points that make Pakistan much more different from Bangladesh.
From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
I would not yet flatly call Raja Gopalacharya's prognosis wrong. After all Bangladesh has a constitution that begins with Bismillah and proclaims Islam as the state religion. May be Gopalacharya did not realize that Pakistan would go as much into the ditch as it is today. Bangladesh is better than Pakistan now, but it is nowhere near India in terms of respecting the religious minorities. It has been a semi-Pakistan for most of its life, and could be just one election away from there now.
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Raja Gopalacharya's prognosis turned out to be wrong! To him any neighboring country with Muslim majority was a Pakistan. That was a political statement.
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
On Dec. 16, 1971 Raja Gopalacharya reacted to the news of the surrender of the Pakistan Army in Dacca, "Her father created one Pakistan, she created two". Secularism is a pipe dream here, with strong religious institutions supported by government financing it is indeed not possible. Bangladesh today has over ten times more madrasahs than the whole subcontinent had before the partition of the subcontinent. Even the Hindu fundamentalism is on the rise here.
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am actually no fan of Napoleon Bonaparte; just used his quote to make the point of agreeing with Mr. Subimal Chakrabarty that re-unification of the Indian sub-continent is not totally impossible, while maintaining myself that it would be very much unlikely in the foreseeable future.
As for Nehru's quote, I would say that re-unification of India with today's Pakistan would be a much bigger problem for India than just a carbuncle on the butt; it would be like a huge cancerous tumor. Being born and raised up to 25 years and having a lot of friends and relatives there, I am reluctant to use the phrase "carbuncle on the butt" on Bangladesh. Moreover, I do see some ray of hope for Bangladesh. The country overall is certainly much better than Pakistan in terms of secular humanism, which seems to be in a growing mode there now.
Sukhamaya Bain
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
About reunification Nehru said, "I don't want a carbuncle on my butt." We all know what Napoleon did to himself and France.
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