| Mr.SA Hannan, your expression is just like a hard-core fundamentalist islamist. Your writing is just imaginary and without any reference.Just live in fools paradise in your own world of imagination. Don't you understand that minorities (Muslims or Christian) in any non-muslim majority country or place are happier than hindus or christian or buddhists in a muslim majority country or place. I could smoke in Jakarta (Indonesia) and Kuala Lumpur (Mlaysia) at Ramadan time in broad day light in road. No body protested.No body forced me to stop . But I could not smoke in Chadni Chowk (Central Calcutta, India) market in Ramadan time where most of the people residing and doing business were Bihari Muslim.They forced me to stop smoking while I was walking in the road through Chadni Chowk area market. This is India and the world knows it as a secular country. If the Hindus of Bangladesh would gain some percentage of privilege that are gaining by Indian Muslims , then perhaps they would not leave their forefathers land. Why you people don't try to dismiss enemy properties law till date? Still now the Hindus are the enemies? I may also point out that neither Islam, nor Islamic forces in Bangladesh are anti-minority or anti-development or anti- democracy. Too much bias takes us nowhere. Islam is always anti to other Faiths.Because Islam thinks other Faiths are wrong.Nobiji (CBUH) when gained power after going to Madina, he spread hatered to other religions. So your people are following Nobiji(CBUH). Just you see after two years if your Khaleda Zia with her anti-liberation alliance comes to power defeating Sk. Hasina, Hindus and other minorities of Bangladesh would be cut throat. Their wives and daughters would be rapped by your people as Nobiji and her alliance rapped the wives and daughters of defeated Yehudis.Their houses would be burnt and their women would be captivated for some couple of months in the houses of the Muslims as Nobiji(CBUH) captivated and distributed the women of the defeated, murdered and or killed men among his partners.
--- On Mon, 10/31/11, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 31, 2011, 4:55 AM
The issues raised below are petty issues to judge a country, whether Pakistan, Bangladesh or India. I can say about India , just as an example, that poverty is deeper there in large segments of population compared to Bangladesh . Top level corruption there is much more .. Communal tension there is daily affair. Minority Muslims are in much more bad condition in India compared to Bangladesh or Pakistan . West Bengal Muslims have two percent services there though they are thirty percent of the population of West Bengal . Pakistan is a serious victim of international terrorism compared to India and Bangladesh . They are fighting that admirably. Indian home grown terrorism is much more and India can not solve it. I may also point out that neither Islam, nor Islamic forces in Bangladesh are anti-minority or anti-development or anti- democracy. Too much bias takes us nowhere. I am not responding to individual small points. I have made essentially broad comments. Shah Abdul Hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:39 PM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN It will be naive to think that Bangladesh is far behind the Pakistan , as far as those points are concerned. Many of those conditions do prevail in Bangladesh , either explicitly or implicitly. For example, there is no possibility of a non-Muslim President in Bangladesh , Ahmadiyas are not recognized as full-Muslms and threat against them exists, Bangladesh has unofficial blasphemy law and Fatwas (Sharia), etc., etc. The reason for Bangladesh lagging Pakistan , in some of those conditions, is due to the qasi-secular politics of Awami League. Give a few years of power to BNP/Jamat; they will catch up with Pakistan pretty quickly. They are all waiting in the queue at the door-step. Bangladesh is, in fact, sitting on the active volcano. From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: " mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com " < mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN - Pakistan is an Islamic Republic. No non-Muslim can become President of the country. Right?
- Ahmadiyas have been declared non-Muslims. This country does not recognize Nobel Laureate Salam as a Muslim.
- Who is running Pakistan ? A very difficult question. Who controls the nuclear arsenal? A serious question. There are worries that this country is on the verge of being a failed sate. Potentially a horrific situation indeed.
- Shia'ite mosques are often bombarded by suicide bombers.
- This country has blasphemy law
- Sectarian clashes are common
- A country where bin Laden could hide in a cantonment city. A lot more are hiding, getting training, and controlling many parts of the country
- Culturally (literature, movie, theaters, arts, painting, etc.) is stagnant and worse-- going backward
- War on terrorism is a big business there for the vested interest groups
Just sit down and reflect. You will come up with many more points that make Pakistan much more different from Bangladesh . From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: " mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com " < mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN I would not yet flatly call Raja Gopalacharya's prognosis wrong. After all Bangladesh has a constitution that begins with Bismillah and proclaims Islam as the state religion. May be Gopalacharya did not realize that Pakistan would go as much into the ditch as it is today. Bangladesh is better than Pakistan now, but it is nowhere near India in terms of respecting the religious minorities. It has been a semi-Pakistan for most of its life, and could be just one election away from there now. From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: " mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com " < mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN Raja Gopalacharya's prognosis turned out to be wrong! To him any neighboring country with Muslim majority was a Pakistan . That was a political statement. From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN On Dec. 16, 1971 Raja Gopalacharya reacted to the news of the surrender of the Pakistan Army in Dacca , "Her father created one Pakistan , she created two". Secularism is a pipe dream here, with strong religious institutions supported by government financing it is indeed not possible. Bangladesh today has over ten times more madrasahs than the whole subcontinent had before the partition of the subcontinent. Even the Hindu fundamentalism is on the rise here. I am actually no fan of Napoleon Bonaparte; just used his quote to make the point of agreeing with Mr. Subimal Chakrabarty that re-unification of the Indian sub-continent is not totally impossible, while maintaining myself that it would be very much unlikely in the foreseeable future. As for Nehru's quote, I would say that re-unification of India with today's Pakistan would be a much bigger problem for India than just a carbuncle on the butt; it would be like a huge cancerous tumor. Being born and raised up to 25 years and having a lot of friends and relatives there, I am reluctant to use the phrase "carbuncle on the butt" on Bangladesh . Moreover, I do see some ray of hope for Bangladesh . The country overall is certainly much better than Pakistan in terms of secular humanism, which seems to be in a growing mode there now.
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
About reunification Nehru said, "I don't want a carbuncle on my butt." We all know what Napoleon did to himself and France.
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