Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Dr. Dipu Moni's NY visit !!!!!!!!!!

Ofcourse since the Learned One says it, it must be the truth.

 

 "Only intellectuals are hypocrite" and they are responsible for all of Bangaladesh's ills! That you say it is worth pursuing in its own merit. Do we have a psycho-analyst on the list here.  

 

We must ofcourse believe that you have no trace of hypocrisy in you!!! "Value free" technocrats (assuming you are one since U work for an oil company" are very squeaky clean because they belive in the pure technical solution. Remove this, cut this off, purge that and Voila - problem solved. And we are off to see the Wizard. This is not like extracting oil from the ground. Sink some pipes and oil gushes out. We are talking about some unfortunate details here people, history, context etc etc etc. But they are such bothersome pests. Lets eliminate them. Wipe them out! Bloody Fools and a gigantic pain in the ass!!

 

Ejaz if you just took a brief second to get off from your smug sanctimoniusness pedestal you would see what knotts you have tied yourself to. 

 

Not looking forward to your last word, but bear it we must. After all you cant possibly give the so-called Netrist, vilest of the vile the last word......

 

Hah! ofcourse we should be so lucky......! 

-----Original Message-----
From: ezajur
Sent: Nov 22, 2011 1:49 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Dr. Dipu Moni's NY visit !!!!!!!!!!

 

I said it because I do mean it. You need not wish for me to mean it. Rather you should wish for a bright day when you can express your own political opinion freely.

The hypocrisy of our intellectual classes are a big part of the problem in Bangladesh. I complain about these classes and their hypocrisy all the time. I am not an intellectual.

I never said some should be accountable and others not. I said the government in particular should be held accountable. An elected minister condoning murder and an opposition scoundrel condoning murder - both must be held accountable but the minister's action is more serious.

Only in Bangladesh will they be seen as the same. As contextualised and normalised in democratic terms by hypocritic intellectuals.

Sincere chamchas tend to stick up for sincere chamchas. You can spot them in the oblique way they stick up for Dipu Moni.

Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, shafiq013@... wrote:
>
>
> Well said and very well said about Jamaat. I wish you mean it also.
>
> Very unlike you, I don't claim to be an intellectual. And democrat,
> who told you "democracy means holding politicians accountable -
> particularly those running the country". Everyone should be
> accountable for his/her good or bad deeds. Be it be Politician (in
> position or in opposition), Bureaucrat, Engineers, Doctors and you name
> it.
>
> You are critical of Dipu Moni because she was hugging the PM very
> joyously. You said " She broke free from the group and hugged the PM
> with great happiness. Her happiness and the happiness of the PM, on
> finally making it to the US was clearly visible. Which is what you could
> only expect from a Bangladeshi PM and FM".
>
> Which is what you could only expect from a highly visionary Bangladeshi
> intellectual.
>
>
>
> Shafiq
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <Ezajur@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well what else could you say?
> >
> > Jamaat deserves to suffer for allowing Golam Azam, Nizami and Saydee
> to
> > lead it when they had such serious accusations against them.
> >
> > I want Jamaat leaders currently under trial to be found guilty so that
> > our country can move forward.
> >
> > I do not believe that Jamaat has a right to partake in electoral
> > politics.
> >
> > I do not believe that any Islamist party can claim divine guidance.
> >
> > Jamaat practices hypocrisy in its dealings with JP, AL and BNP.
> >
> > Shibbir should be prosecuted, even banned, for violence committed by
> > it's members.
> >
> > I joined my Sylheti brothers in blockading Saydee in East London
> Mosque
> > when he made outrageous statements.
> >
> > Jamaat needs reform just as much as BNP and AL.
> >
> > I am against creating division of our children between state education
> > and madrassahs.
> >
> > Jamaat has failed to take the moral lead on many issues - just as much
> > as AL and BNP.
> >
> > Jamaat has failed to promote Islam as a fundamentally moderate,
> > enlightened and forgiving religion.
> >
> > Jamaat places its strategic and commercial interests above the
> immediate
> > needs of our suffering poor.
> >
> > Jamaat has risen partly thanks to the failure of AL and BNP to claim
> the
> > moral lead in centre politics in Bangladesh.
> >
> > If Jamaat was in government and behaving wrongly I would, and could,
> > condemn it more than any closet AL supporter ever could.
> >
> > Jamaat stands against the Sufi traditions of Islam in Bangladesh. I
> > stand with these Sufi traditions.
> >
> > The point is it is not in government - AL is in government. And
> > democracy means holding politcians accountable - particularly those
> > running the country. Unless you are a Bongu - then you can talk crap
> > about everything else except your own political party and still claim
> to
> > be an intellectual and a democrat.
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> >
> > Kuwait
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, shafiq013@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Mere Dost. Don't be upset. We don't require X-ray eyes to know you.
> It
> > > is crystal clear that you are a Jamaat activist. Come on man admit
> it.
> > > You cannot hide it anymore.
> > > Shafiq
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" Ezajur@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like you know everything about me too :)
> > > >
> > > > So x-ray eyes are needed for one Deshi to spot political bias in
> > > another Deshi. I didn't think this was a possibility :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, shafiq013@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The man with x-ray eyes. He is eye-witness of everything. Sub
> kuch
> > > janta
> > > > > hai mera ya dost. Aacha aadmi hai magar Natri ne mar dia.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Shafiq
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <Ezajur@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Spoken like a true blind closet supporter of AL who serves his
> > > > > ideology
> > > > > > by diffusing, diluting and diverting criticism of his Nethri J
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Never criticizing her, her says her critics love her
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Never saying anything, he says others have nothing to say
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Never being able to speak about his politics, he call others
> > `poor
> > > > > > fellow'
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Haireh Bangal J
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Shafiq Ahmad shafiq013@
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I told you. Poor fellow. He seems to be in love with Natris.
> > > Cannot
> > > > > > live without it. Or nothing much to say.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shafiq
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: ezajur Ezajur@
> > > > > > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:24 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Dr. Dipu Moni's NY visit !!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Â
> > > > > > > Ah! The closet nethrist returns! Actually I didn't use the
> > word
> > > > > Nethri
> > > > > > but your appearance has reminded me of the term :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hows your Nethri doing?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, shafiq013@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As if he was present there. Must be day-dreaming. People
> who
> > > make
> > > > > > such
> > > > > > > > remarks forget Dr. Goebbels tactics does work all the
> time.
> > > > > Believe
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > I know what will be his response. He will again take the
> > > refuge
> > > > > > behind
> > > > > > > > the word "Natri".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Shafiq
> > > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <Ezajur@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Not really. It is possible that her visa was
> deliberately
> > > held
> > > > > up
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > Washington for the past few months in order to make a
> point.
> > > Just
> > > > > > > > because she got it in the end is no justified cause for
> > > gloating
> > > > > on
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > part.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When the plane door opened at JFK and the PM took her
> > first
> > > step
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > the narrow passage, Dipu Moni could not control her joy.
> She
> > > broke
> > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > from the group and hugged the PM with great happiness. Her
> > > > > > happiness,
> > > > > > > > and the happiness of the PM, on finally making it to the
> US
> > > was
> > > > > > clearly
> > > > > > > > visible.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Which is what you could only expect from a Bangaldeshi
> PM
> > > and
> > > > > FM.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Muhammad Ali
> manik195709@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > FM Dr. Dipu Moni was in NY for a short visit. Her
> visit
> > > was a
> > > > > > slap
> > > > > > > > to the relentless fradulent propaganda by Abu Jafar and
> gang
> > > for
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > few months regarding denial of her visa to enter US. Now
> we
> > > demand
> > > > > > Abu
> > > > > > > > Jafar, Mohiuddin Anwar and others to come up with good
> > > explanation
> > > > > > > > > > about this visit.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Manik
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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