"There are people who are afraid to embrace modernity albeit prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was very flexible without sacrificing the core values of Islam." Indeed prophet Muhammad was flexible. He even incorporate three daughters of Allah in his Quran, tried the compromise for five years and abrogated it later, calling them Satanic. Was he sure that he did not receive many other verses in his holy book was not also received from Satan as well? If he were, he would have taken steps to compile all the verses in proper order for his followers. Besides these people do not have any idea on what is the heaven really built of, let alone have any idea on whether there is any book or not.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:19 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
If anyone believes that any book can be sent from the heavens, such as the Koran, no intellectual discussion can be initiated.
>>>>>>>> Guess one needs to have some basic knowledge of the Qur'an to saying things against or for the Qur'an. If the "Origin" of the Qur'an is a non-starter, you cannot even have a discussion because you have decided (Before discussion) how it will end ( Saying Qur'an cannot be from heaven!).
The whole context of Koran is related to the social condition of Muhammad's own times>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually only part of it talk's about "Muhammad's own time". It talks a great deal about past civilizations (IF you read it, you will see it).
The rigidity a reader finds in this book is nothing but the necessity of his contemporary times.
>>>>>>>>>> Guess if we agree with it, you need to change the US constitution every five years the same way you change presidents of that country. Last time I checked, they do not run their country that way.
The fundamental values never change only application does and Islam does allow to "Update application of Laws" ( Known as Ijtihad).
The blunder one commits when this 1500 years old context is interpreted as the remedy the ills of our times.
>>>>>>>>>> There are laws older than 1500 years ago and works pretty darn good in most countries of the world. For example, theft was always a crime and will remain a crime. We just need to include cyber theft to the original list to stay "Updated". Very good basic laws always stays relevant.
The proponents of this dysfunctional school of thought are doing a great harm by insisting blindly that Koranic injunctions can be propelled to our times.
>>>>>>>> Yes extremists of all kind are bad. The Qur'an itself asks to read and UNDERSTAND the Qur'an. Following it blindly may get wrong results. There are Muslims who takes verses out of context to promote their own greed. That is also wrong. The spirit and words of the Qur'an has to be understood and followed.
The fear which is the fundamental core of Islam is being used as a cult by these people who are blind to the unstoppable wheels of changes.>>>>>>>>> Actually there are a lot of people who are afraid of changes. There are people who are afraid to embrace modernity albeit prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was very flexible without sacrificing the core values of Islam. There are also people who was taught all religions are bad and they are still stuck in the century old mindset and refuses to re-examine their ancient was of thinking.
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From: picasso154 <picasso154@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 7, 2011 1:31 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Bangladesh Wins Freedom--Mr Kamal Das misinterprets Quran
If anyone believes that any book can be sent from the heavens, such as the Koran, no intellectual discussion can be initiated. The whole context of Koran is related to the social condition of Muhammad's own times. The rigidity a reader finds in this book is nothing but the necessity of his contemporary times. The blunder one commits when this 1500 years old context is interpreted as the remedy the ills of our times. The proponents of this dysfunctional school of thought are doing a great harm by insisting blindly that Koranic injunctions can be propelled to our times. They forget that in the realm of intellectual discussion blind faith is not an acceptable platform. The fear which is the fundamental core of Islam is being used as a cult by these people who are blind to the unstoppable wheels of changes.
Akbar Hussain
Toronto
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