Mr Hannan SB, This is not propaganda. You may get portfolio if any chance to form another wings of Jamaat with good people as many rumors around.Not PURANO Papis. Pls refrain your self to support them. You are an ex-Islami bank advisor...How the bank is running now...are you in touch with them..No bad Hundis..Are have been disconnected Trust you are aware..Hannan Shaheb-ji
--- On Fri, 12/2/11, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: Golam Azam - the Mastermind behind 1971 intellectuals murders and other attrocities !!!!
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Friday, December 2, 2011, 7:22 PM
Everything you said, Mr. Russel, is correct. It was all political. But, some people use religion and religious scriptures for political expediency and personal gains. I do not blame religion for that. Gholam Azam, Nizami, Syedi, etc. are not ordinary people; they are the most devout and respected religious personalities in the country, who have millions of followers. They knew what they were doing, and they had to justify all their actions somehow based on their religious doctrines. How did they reconcile with their relgious doctrines? That was my point of discussion in the last post. It was in response to Mr. Q. Rahman's comment that Koran prohibits killing of 'innocent' people. I was merely pointing out the vagueness of this statement. Human beings are just too clever animals; they know how to bend everything to their favor. Religious scriptures are mostly written in vague terms; many of which are open to multiple interpretations. Therefore, finding justification for almost any actions (lying, killing, deceiving, etc.), based on religious doctrines/sanctions, is probably not so difficult. That is how politics with religion work. Thanks. Jiten Roy From: GT International <gti82@hotmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] RE: Golam Azam - the Mastermind behind 1971 intellectuals murders and other attrocities !!!!
With all due respect I think you are wrong Mr. Roy; it was no religious conviction that led Golam Azam and his associates to ally with Pakistan and kill innocent Bangalies. It was rather criminal character/mindset/political belief; they took opportunity to kill their opponents in the name of protecting Pakistan not protecting Islam. They killed many many muslims and yes practicing muslims whomever they could not agree with politically or otherwise which Qur'an never preaces. They only used religion to cover their dirty work. So lamenting entire religion for a few bad people is a wrong conclusion Sir. I know many many good practicing muslim who supported our independence and worked for our independence. This is no religious conflict; it was a war for basic human rights and for independence. -Russel To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com From: jnrsr53@yahoo.comDate: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:58:37 -0800Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: Golam Azam - the Mastermind behind 1971 intellectuals murders and other attrocities !!!!
Razakar, Al Badr, etc. who cooperated with the Pakistani soldiers did follow religious scripture to justify all their actions, including killings. When ultra religious people show that - Koran prohibits killing of innocent person, the devil is in the details. What is the definition of innocence? From the religious point of view, one can justify killings as self-defense, or it was done after several warnings, or it was done to defend religion, etc. etc. For example - Razakar, Al Badrs, etc. killed secular intellectuals because they were considered as enemy of Islam, and, hence, they were not innocent people. Am I wrong in my interpretation? Jiten Roy From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: Golam Azam - the Mastermind behind 1971 intellectuals murders and other attrocities !!!!
S. A. Hannan should stop using this as a Jamaati forum. Golam Azam was a lecturer in the Carmichael college. Calling him (or Abu Sayeed of Pabna) 'Professor' is derogatory to the term. By that standard, I myself was a 'Professor' in Rajshahi College since Oct. 1970. About is collaboration with the occupying army, ample records are available in the contemporary newspapers. The acts of killing, looting, and raping may be deemed inhuman. But these heinous acts had been sanctioned by religious decrees in the 'holy' scripture. On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:28 AM, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote: This is all propaganda. Professor Golam Azam was exonerated from all accusations of crime by the Supreme Court while restoring his Bangladeshi citizenship. Shah Abdul Hannan Golam Azam - the Albodor Mastermind ....... http://www.amadershomoy.net/content/2011/11/23/news0819.php Nov 7, 2010 – Ghulam Azam maintains that he went to Pakistan to participate in the Annual General Meeting of his organization, the Jamaat-e-Islami, but he ... http://chottala.blogspot.com/2011/10/chottalacom-al-badr-pakistani-killing.html Note: Jamaate Islami organized Al-Bodor Bahini in 1971.Matiur Rahman Nizami was one of the main masterminds and his Islami Chattro Sangha supplied the hardcore caders of Al-Bodor gestapo militia. Jamaat's armed Albodor gestapos committed various attrocities against the emmergence of Bangladesh. The murder of the intellectuals in the begining of December 1971 was the sole act of Al-bodor bahini. The scheme was planned by Jammat and Islami Chattro Sangha's leadership that included Matiur Rahman Nizami,Golam Azam et el. .......... Watch the YouTube videos: Al-Badr: A pakistani killing squad during the liberation war of Bangladesh in 1971: AL-BADAR AND JAMAT LEADERS: Ghulam Azam (Bengali: গোলাম আযম) (born 7 November 1922), is a Bangladeshi political leader who is regarded in his country as a war criminal of the Liberation ...
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