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Saturday, March 24, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] তসলিমা নাসরিনঃ কতোটা সফল নারীবাদে ?



Your 'Maharshi' surely would.  The church leaders would singe you like a feather to answer your arrogance and lack of scriptural knowledge.

2012/3/25 subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
 

Only a fanatic militant or a cruel dictator uses sword in such a situation which hopefully you are not.

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:20 PM

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] তসলিমা নাসরিনঃ কতোটা সফল নারীবাদে ?
 
Words naturally do not enter into deaf ears.

2012/3/24 subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
 
Where words fail, the sword take over. I will not be surprised if that is in your subconscious mind.

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] তসলিমা নাসরিনঃ কতোটা সফল নারীবাদে ?
 
In good old days of the 'Kazi's court, such 'teachers of civilizing' would have his limbs sliced ant tongue cut off.  Shamelessness and tomfoolery should have a limit.
2012/3/20 Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
 
I wrote this with reference to Farida Majid's post. 'Sharp' guy missed it. I think my first sentence aimed at civilizing him angered him. 
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:
 
What made this dull person feel that I coined 'rebel' from his posting?
2012/3/17 subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
 
The last sentence in Das's post is not only irrelevant, it also harms the environment required for a healthy debate.
 
Any way, the word "rebel" is not my creation. I have borrowed it from Prof. Ahmad Sharif who has use the word "drohee" for which I have found the closest English word "rebel". There may be a more appropriate English word for "drohee". 

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] তসলিমা নাসরিনঃ কতোটা সফল নারীবাদে ?
 
Taslima had every reason to be a 'rebel'.  Her mom was cheated on by his dad as she was by Rudra Md. Shahidullah.  The level of media attention drawn by Taslima across the world was enormous, Humayun Azad would have loved to have such attention.  Sure she had plagiarized a lot, but he did even more of it.  His novel, "Pak shar jamin.." was an effort to catch a cobra by it's tail, and not much of a post-modern literature.  Having a secured teaching position at D. U., Humayun Azad didn't have to struggle for a living while being a junior physician, Taslima had to do it. The lady out to criticize Taslima here is no match for her in any respect.  Her criticism might have grown out of 'jealousy of one female for another of much wider reputation'.
2012/3/17 Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
 
There is no benefit whatsoever in denying the contribution and attention Taslima drew on the emancipation of women in Bangladesh. There may be others who are trying to do the same now in some other ways, who are undoubtedly strong winds to push the issue forward, but – Taslima was a Tornado, as far as her contribution is concerned.
Taslima brought Bangladeshi women's rights issues in the forefront of the international arena.  Now you have international attention focused on the issue, and you have NGOs working on the subject. I am aware of all these NGO activities in this field.  It seems like you are competing with her, when there is no need for it. She did her part; you can do yours.' That's how I see this issue.
I read her book, and the way she has depicted the role of women in the society, it matches my views on the subject.  In her book, she has described the role her mother played in her home, that also depicts my mother's life-story, and, I am sure, it will match stories of countless other mothers in Bangladesh. I used to think about it as a child, as she did.
My mother's world was inside the kitchen. He had to cook three times a day using a wood-burning oven, which takes quite a long time to finish the job. She used to finish cooking a meal and then she would feed everybody in the house. After that, she would eat. When she would finish her meal, it is already time to start cooking for the next meal. I have hardly seen her outside the kitchen. If she would come out of the kitchen, it was for cleaning the house or doing something else. While my mother was doing all these works in the house, my father already finished visiting many of his friends' house to gossip.  My mother never had the opportunity to do so. That's the picture emerged from her writings also. Therefore, I am not in the same boat with you.
Yes, I am aware of the recent change in the urban and suburban areas, but, I believe, very little has changed in the village, where majority of the women live. So, when you criticize Taslima, remember the condition of those women, not the women in the Dhaka-City. Also, you have to think of the time when she started her crusade, which was more than 30 years ago.
Jiten Roy--- On Fri, 3/16/12, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] তসলিমা নাসরিনঃ কতোটা সফল নারীবাদে ? To: "mukto-mona" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>Date: Friday, March 16, 2012, 4:28 PM
 
           I am puzzled by Jiten Roy's negligence of the history of women's movement in greater Bengal, his hyperbolic usage of the word "implant" and the funny concept of "male-dominated ancient conservative society in Bangladesh."              To be honest, such talk is very insulting to Bengali women who have always, through centuries, been a tremendous force in the glorious economic history of Bengal, and to this day, contibutes a lion's share to the economy of Bangladesh.  Stop the women from working for a week, and the whole economy will collapse!  Women of Bengal deserve much better respect.             Don't have the time now to go into detail, but the dozen or so top women's organizations in Bangladesh will tell you how Taslima fiasco damaged their work in progress and encouraged the Islamist goondagiri.  Before the Taslima affair, these fundos were at the shadowy margins of the society. They did not dare show their faces in public before.             One other quick reminder -- the inappropriateness of the word "rebel." Taslima's final confrontation with the shadowy fundamentalists was a pure political farce. There was nothing rebel-like at all other than misquotes, and misunderstanding.  It would be a gross misjudgement to call those 'molla' types the ruling authority. They did not dictate the mores of the society, though they pretended as if they did -- but it was Taslima who created that space for them which had been steadfastly denied them by other women activists. This is what really annoyed a lot of women.              It saddens me to be talking like this.  But I am a very different type of feminist than Taslima.  I do not begin by the concept of a disempowered womanhood.  I am constantly harassed by the patriarchy because I am a woman who tells the truth, but that is the male problem. You just saw an example only last week by the spectacle put on by Canada's Abid Bahar.  Do you think that Bahari act disempowered me as a woman, or was successful in belittling the truth?  If anything, it sharpened the truth.              That brings me back to the subject of a 'rebel'.  Humayun was not a rebel. He was not fighting against any 'authority' like Kazi Nazrul's bold and beautiful voice was against the British Colonizer Rulers.  Times were different. With his many important publications, his commanding position as the Chair of the Bangla Dept. at DU, and his lively, influential presence in the cultural and political arena, Humayun occupied a central Metropolitan public space.  He WAS the authority.  Consider the theatricals of the scene of his murder attempt -- Humayun walking out of the lighted grounds of Bangla Academy, he had several books out that year including the novel 'Pak Shar Zamin Shad Baad', he had been book-signing all evening at the Agami publisher's stall, the February National Book Fair was just winding down. From across the street, from under the dark shadows of trees in the park came a few goondas with sharp machete knives and attacked the unaccompanied author!              Taslima never occupied that space, that central metropolitan cultural public square. She grabbed the central stage by acts of folly. Misquoting the Qur'an is not the equivalent of telling an incontrovertible truth.                 Farida Majid
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.comFrom: jnrsr53@yahoo.comDate: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:41:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] তসলিমা নাসরিনঃ কতোটা সফল নারীবাদে ? 




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