Science and religion are two different things. Their roles are completely different. Humans derive completely different utilities from science and religion. Nothing can be more frustrating than asking for some thing from science that only religion can offer and vice versa. Domain of science is totally different from that of religion. Science is materialistic in the sense that it deals exclusively with the material world. Religion on the other hand is spiritualistic. But both science and religion have to be human-centered. Because of this use of science needs ethical guidance. Because of the same reason a religion also must have provision of being reinterpreted in the light of the evolution of societies so that it does not become obsolete. In this process the domain of religion has to be diminished and sharpened as well. Now we have so many branches of knowledge to take care of our various types of needs that we do not have to go either to science or to religion for fulfillment of the needs. We have to be respectful to the specific domains of science and religion. Hindu religious-philosophical system contains theories on creation of the universe and origin of species and their evolution (ten incarnations), structure of matter (Kanad), and so on. A modern man will simply check to what extent the said theories comply with latest scientific findings. He must have the spirit to discard them of found incompatible. No Vedic math or science (I have seen a book named Vedic Mathematics) need to be written. Any thing reasonable will become part of the history of science or will simply continue to be part of the Hindu religious-philosophical-metaphysical system. And there is nothing wrong with that. Religion, philosophy and metaphysics are very interesting fields. They are also important as they help us in understanding who we are in this vast expanse of time and space.
The bottom line is that a believer must not expect too much from religion in view of the fact that we have now so fields, disciplines, and branches of knowledge to turn to for appropriate answers. By doing this we do not undermine a religion, instead we show proper respect to it and it's domain. And this is a pragmatic view.
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Stop smoking, brother! Our universe was created from total randomness! It is a pure fluke that we exits
>>>>>>>>> Yup. The smartphones, computer, Big screen TV, sky scrappers just appeared from "Randomness"!!
The interesting thing to note that, our body is more complex than stuff I mentioned.
Yes, you are right. New planets are being created and destroyed in the universe. Who knew about it thousands of years ago???
The Qur'an spoke about it as well. Please click here
Those who are brave enough to really understand a different point of view, please click here.
Shalom!
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From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 25, 2012 5:30 am
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Stop smoking, brother! Our universe was created from total randomness! It is a pure fluke that we exits. There are probably many more earth like planets are being created or destroyed as we speak. And, they might contain different forms of life than ours. We do not even know. Religious books were written by people, who had only vague idea about math, physics, chemistry and biology. Not enough knowledge to think beyond our earth. Only thing, that they were capable of doing is to eat and poop. Do not tell me that people like Galileo and others only reinvented the wheels. That is a pure crap!-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:43 AM
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How can I deny the existence of God in the Moher Nature?
>>>>>>>> Absolutely. No one can deny mother nature. I just think my praises are reserved for the power who created "Mother nature". Your cell phone did not make itself, it needed a maker (RIM, Apple, Nokia, Samsung...etc). Similarly the wonderful nature we see around us needed a "Maker" as well. A chapter in the Qur'an talks about it. It consistently ask readers the question, " Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?"
Indeed our Maker gave us so many gifts.
Shalom!
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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 5:05 am
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From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 8:41 AM
Yours may be one of some possible explanations. I still remember what Bani Basu, a novelist from West Bengal and wife of a Buddhist scholar, has written in the introduction of her "semi-historical" novel "Maitrya Jatak": "Dharma is a shuva sanskar". This "sanskar" (can we trnslate it into "superstition"? Probably not.) is the result of religious beliefs of thosands of years of our forefathers. To this has been added the strong religious environment the atheist is living in. It's foundation in our subconscious mind is so splod that even a "confirmed" atheist fails to escape it completely. And this manifests itself in an atheist's love for devotional or spiritual songs of Rabindranath and others.From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 1:55 PM
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"Is it not fascinating that even the educated and culturally advanced atheists and skeptics love devotional songs written by our great lyricists? Why is it so? "
Very interesting observation!Here is my two cents:No matter how much we know about the nature and its laws, it will still be a mystery for us for many millions years to come. We will never be able to attain the absolute knowledge that we might need to predict a future incident like a plane crash in the sky or say, us facing certain deaths on certain dates. That insecurity might be a factor why we still do not mind to sing the hallelujah hymn to yield that undefined mysterious power to a greater power than ours own?-SD"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:46 AM
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1.Use of drug has been an integral part of the culture of many secretive and semi-secretive cults. The "sati" had sometimes to be drugged to persuade her to walk onto the burning pyre of her dead husband. I have seen smoking of "ganja" by people (male) of all ages during the religious event called "trinather mela". In urban religious practices of Hinduism, this (smoking ganja) has been greatly marginalized or probably has vanished. Many Hindu sadhus cannot do without it. Drug opens spiritual window for the truth seeker. In my young life I have seen disciples (fans) sitting around the master (male or female) to get engaged in profound
