Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism

I have humble questions for Mr. Hannan. If Jamaat-i-Islam comes to power in Bangladesh, will they try to declare the Ahamadiyas non-Muslims? What is Indian constitution lacking now and how can these lackings be fixed by Hindu religious teachings? What Hindu religious teachings has he in his mind? Caste-ism or teachings of Manu? What are the Christian moral codes that the Christians in the West are not following? No abortion at all? 

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On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Hannan, I heard from many others before, but - you are consistent in your views; that's quite interesting. Thanks. Jiten Roy --- On Fri, 10/12/12, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote: From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> Subject: FW: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 11:46 PM   correcyed   From: S A Hannan [mailto:sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:52 AM To: ' mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ' Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism   Dear Mr.Jiten Roy, I would love to see India ruled by Hindu religious teachings, only condition is fundamental rights of Non-Hindus should be guaranteed in the constitution. Similarly if the West rules by teaching and  moral code of Christianity, the world will be freed from much of immorality, selfishness, materialism etc. In the state of Madina established by the Prophet, the state was based on Islam but all citizens including the Jews had similar rights. Islamic states will not be theocracy; they would be ruled by elected people. Shah Abdul HannanI   From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 6:00 AM To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism     Many Islamic leaders aspire for religious theocratic states, wherever they are majority. This is one of the Islamist doctrines and goals. When Muslim population gains near majority in any area, Islamists start to promote the idea that - Muslims aren't allowed to be governed by non-Muslims, and they initiate the process to control the power of that area. Islamists are Muslim-supremists, much like Nazis or skinheads (KKK). They are driven by the doctrine of Islamic Ummah.   Obviously, Mr. Hannan supports the Islamist agenda, without much thought. He may not realize, if every religion follows similar doctrine, the world would be unlivable. I would like to ask him - if he wants to see India as a Hindu state, since 85% is Hindu there. Hindu-supremists will agree with him. In the same token, Western countries will be Christian states also.   In India , Muslim majority areas (Murshidabad, Nadia, Kashmir , Assam , etc.) are tremendously volatile because of this Islamist doctrine. Muslim majority areas in other parts of the world (e.g., Mayanmar , Thailand , Europe , etc.) are going through turmoil also. Bangladesh and Turkey are under tremendous pressure from the Islamists, but hanging onto the brink until now. God knows how long that will last. I have no solution, except to think that - proper education may heal this wound someday.   Jiten Roy   --- On Wed, 10/10/12, sentu tikadar <sentu92003@yahoo.com> wrote: From: sentu tikadar <sentu92003@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism To: " mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com " < mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com >, "nirjhor019@yahoo.com" <nirjhor019@yahoo.com>, " eliasfaridpur@yahoo.com " < eliasfaridpur@yahoo.com >, "su_maiya1@yahoo.com" <su_maiya1@yahoo.com>, "azizbiit@gmail.com" <azizbiit@gmail.com>, "aftabbiit@gmail.com" <aftabbiit@gmail.com>, " humaira_parveen@yahoo.com " < humaira_parveen@yahoo.com >, "umaira@live.com" <umaira@live.com> Cc: "mukto-mona-owner@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona-owner@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 10:10 PM তাই মুসলমানেরা যেখানে সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ, সেখানে তাদের ইসলামি সমাজ বা রাষ্ট্র গঠন করার সব ধরনের চেষ্টা করা তাদের অধিকার। এটাকে সাম্প্রদায়িক চেতনা বলে নিন্দা করা যায় না।   Thik koichen apni. Ekkebare hasa kotha koichen..... Sahi kotha, Qurane pary tai ache.    Apni jemon temon koichen.   Make Bangladesh an Islamic Sariah country and cut throat the Hindus and other minorities in broad day light.  Or either foercefully convert their women and marry them.  If they are not agreed to marry your people then rape them.  This PRACTICE is not new in Islam.  It was a common practice in Nabiji's time. Nabiji himself had raped many Jews and nonbelievers women (on this context Mollahs are very defensive to shield Nabiji and admire Nabiji). Then mentally and also physically torture  them in any place, e.g. market, town, or when they walk  by your mosque side.  Drive them to India and grasp their properties.       Where there are Muslim majority, Hindus and other minorities are at razor danger.  Examples are  Deganga of North 24 Parganas (90 % Muslims) , Kashmir (99% Muslims), Mollah Puram (60 % Muslims) of Kerala ,  India .  So it can be easily understandable what will be the condition of Hindus and  Buddhists  in a Muslim majority geographical country.  Hundreds of thousands are like  you in Bangladesh .  So in coming future there will be mass murder of Hindus and Buddhists in Bangladesh or they have to convert to desert Bedouin religion / dictatorship.    But Muslims in Hindu Majority areas are well protected by Indian Laws and society people and they are happy.   What the Talebans are doing in Pakistan and Afghanistan is also nayez as per Quran specially the part written during Nabiji's  stay in Medina .   \  Sentu   From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> To: nirjhor019@yahoo.com; " mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com " < mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com >; eliasfaridpur@yahoo.com ; su_maiya1@yahoo.com; azizbiit@gmail.com; aftabbiit@gmail.com; humaira_parveen@yahoo.com ; umaira@live.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:08 PM Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism            Example from Mr. Hannan' writing where there are, on average, 3-5 grand lies per sentence:মুসলমানেরা যেখানে সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ, সেখানে তাদের ইসলামি সমাজ বা রাষ্ট্র গঠন করার সব ধরনের চেষ্টা করা তাদের অধিকার। এটাকে সাম্প্রদায়িক চেতনা বলে নিন্দা করা যায় না। অসাম্প্রদায়িক অর্থ যার কোনো সম্প্রদায় নেই। তার মানে তার কোনো আদর্শ ও নীতিবোধ নেই। এ ধরনের নীতিহীনতা ও নীতিহীন লোক দিয়ে কোনো কল্যাণ হতে পারে না।              The majority/minority of population count depends on what principle of classification?  We REJECT the British-introduced system of pre-selected classification of people  by their religion.  The principle of categorizing of people by their religion is not followed by any official administrative procedure in Bangladesh .  Why should it be the basis of declaring the State to have a religious identity? You want another massacre of 1947?  The rest of Hannan's statements are too evil and too ridiculous to even find words to rebut!                     Shame on such lie-mongering munafiqui! This is truly veering closely on committing 'kufr' on a grand scale. Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:57:44 -0700 From: nirjhor019@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul

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