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Sunday, January 27, 2013

RE: [mukto-mona] Crime against Humanity



        This BIG propaganda bulls**t has to be confronted with some solid knowledge, not emotion.
The 'bucket of tears' exaggerations of non-Bengali killings are not borne by facts. We must also think in "legal" terms and not get mixed up in FORCED and tricky confusion about what is called "Crimes against humanity" and what is a civilian criminal act.

         The killing of the Biharis by unruly mobs of civilians or returning mukti bahini fighters were criminal acts that were committed outside the thatre of War. I think Maj. Gen Ziaur Rahman can be especially cited for a spate of Bihari killings in Chittagong, Kalurghat, in 1971. The country was in total chaos, and I deeply regret that there was no visible authority to call the people to attention and prevent these types of revenge killings.

         The perpetrators, if and when identified , should be tried in Municipal Criminal Courts.  But the Jamaati and other Bengali collaborator were part of the overall design of a well-planned and organized War of Agression -- hence their charges of War Crimes, such as Genocide, crimes against humanity, crimes against peace, mass rape used as an instrument of war, etc. are charges that are defined by the UN Charters, and not covered by normal Civil Criminal Codes.  

                       Farida Majid



To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: qrahman@netscape.net
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:11:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Crime against Humanity

 

If there is any event where innocent civilians were victims, I think it is about time we look past ethnicity of the victim. We Bengalis suffered and mourn the losses of 71. At the same time if any "Muhajirs of non-Bengali origin" suffered that is no less.


Personally I know quite a few families who lost loved one during 71, I rarely see them into name calling game we witness today. They quietly carry their memories and look at political circus around "Their loss".

After passing four long decades, we should have some maturity in our judgement and ethnic background should not prevent us to show sympathy to those where INNOCENT civilians were victims of that war (That was forced upon us by Pakistani leadership).

Slowly but surely we are emerging as a mature nation and our attitude should reflect that maturity when we deal with any Bangladeshi citizen regardless of their ethic background (Be they are from hill tracts of Chittagong or "Non Bangla speaking Bangladeshi").

(For the kids among us who don't posts carefully) this is NOT any attempt to cover any criminals. Criminals deserve to be punished and should be punished.


Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; khan boston <khanboston@gmail.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; bachchuhaq <bachchuhaq@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 27, 2013 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Crime against Humanity

 
The issue is legitimate but not new. Many of these non-Bengalis were not exactly innocent angels during our liberation time. They were right at fore front of massacring Bengalis from the get go. These non-Bengalis with their Razakar friends were fully licensed to kill anybody at anytime. Their main target was mainly non-Muslims, progressives and Awami leaguers. As we all know, the final toll was nearly three millions. No single family escaped from their bloody daggers or bullets unless you were Jamatis or razakars.

I am not sure what Mr. Qutubuddin or his friend Mr. Hussaini were expecting from the Bengali public when the country was liberated with three millions dead? We should have accepted those non-Bengalis and razakars with garlands? Forget and forgive for raping our mothers and sisters? Is there any liberated country where revenge killing never took place right after the liberation?

I would not justify killing of any innocent person. However, the numbers are pretty pale compared to our three millions dead. The numbers may not even go beyond few thousands. I understand where Mr. Hussaini would like to go with this non-Bengali killings when we are trying put some of our mass murderers behind the bars. I understand his implicit sympathy for these notorious murderers. 
-SD   

 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS

From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; khan boston <khanboston@gmail.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Crime against Humanity

 
Crime Against Humanity in Bangladesh, whom no one is talking about.  Atrocities against non-Bengalis.
 
Bood and Tears
 
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3366347/247194982/name/Blood%2Band%2BTears--qutubuddin%2Baziz.pdf





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