"Thus it is a "Miracle" that despite massive colonizations and lack of education, Muslims were able to kept their holy book unaltered and saved in it's original form. NO other (Advanced or backward) religious communities can make that claim!!"
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Questions of God and Eternity
>>>>>>>>> Not trying to sell you anything but if you UNDERSTOOD what I said would be nice. :-)
Naturally most advanced communities have most technical know how about preservation. It would be LOGICAL if they were able to keep their holy books unaltered but that is not the case. Beside Muslims (People who follow Islam as religion) no other communities can make that claim.
For example, the holy Veda cannot be changed but according to Vivekananda/bibekananda most of it were lost and authenticity of some Vedas can be questioned.
I am not sure why it is a "Flawed" argument. It would be helpful to be specific about my perceived "Flaw".
It is normal for backward country like Bangladesh or Nigeria to have flawed democratic system and it is "Normal" for advanced countries to have more mature and stable democratic system (France, USA or Canada).
Thus it is a "Miracle" that despite massive colonizations and lack of education, Muslims were able to kept their holy book unaltered and saved in it's original form. NO other (Advanced or backward) religious communities can make that claim!!
Hope this will make a little more sense. I am talking about "Unique" quality of the holy Qur'an here.
It is also interesting to note that, God said He will preserve His book and so far it has been preserved perfectly!
Shalom!
OK, we have preserved messages from a religious book for centuries and now, we need be to rewarded for that great achievement? But, we can't feed or educate our people and that is perfectly all right? Our religious book is our best legacy? For what good? Sorry, these are very poor arguments for any progress or solution. You can keep drinking this cool aide for another century and be happy! And, you won't change your situation at all. This kind of attitude will force you to invade another advanced country like US/China and force them to work for you? Is that the plan? Good luck!
Sorry for my sarcasm.
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
Sorry for my sarcasm.
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Questions of God and Eternity
Therefore, Quran still remains unaltered does not prove anything. It appears that - the writer of this article, as well as you, are trying to pass a flawed argument as a valid one, and feeling good about it. I am sorry, I can't buy it.
>>>>>>>>> Not trying to sell you anything but if you UNDERSTOOD what I said would be nice. :-)
Naturally most advanced communities have most technical know how about preservation. It would be LOGICAL if they were able to keep their holy books unaltered but that is not the case. Beside Muslims (People who follow Islam as religion) no other communities can make that claim.
For example, the holy Veda cannot be changed but according to Vivekananda/bibekananda most of it were lost and authenticity of some Vedas can be questioned.
I am not sure why it is a "Flawed" argument. It would be helpful to be specific about my perceived "Flaw".
It is normal for backward country like Bangladesh or Nigeria to have flawed democratic system and it is "Normal" for advanced countries to have more mature and stable democratic system (France, USA or Canada).
Thus it is a "Miracle" that despite massive colonizations and lack of education, Muslims were able to kept their holy book unaltered and saved in it's original form. NO other (Advanced or backward) religious communities can make that claim!!
Hope this will make a little more sense. I am talking about "Unique" quality of the holy Qur'an here.
It is also interesting to note that, God said He will preserve His book and so far it has been preserved perfectly!
Shalom!
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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 5:21 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Questions of God and Eternity
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 5:21 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Questions of God and Eternity
"Because people today still get inspiration from Aristotle, Socrates and Kalidas." That's because nobody is claiming that – writings of Kalidas or Aristotle have predictions for most of the modern scientific inventions, we see today. "Arguably Muslims are one of the more backward communities in the world and they were able to keep their holy revelation UNALTERED. However NO other advanced communities were able to do the same. All other books were altered by men (Most of the time it is men not women)." Quran remains unaltered, because it's forbidden to do so. Tell me - who will bell the cat, under this circumstance? You are right - other advanced societies are searching for the authenticity of their holy-books; that's the sign of a mature progressive society. But, as you said, Islamic societies are still backward, and such discussions cannot occur in the backward society; you need an advanced mature society to open such discussion. Therefore, Quran still remains unaltered does not prove anything. It appears that - the writer of this article, as well as you, are trying to pass a flawed argument as a valid one, and feeling good about it. I am sorry, I can't buy it. Jiten Roy
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