1. The phrase "Islamic secular" is an oxymoron.
2. With regard to your comment on Muslim Brotherhood, my response is still item no. 1 above.
3. Please do not advocate for Islamic rule in Bangladesh. That would be a worst form of communalism and sectarianism. Your suggested evolutionary path will bring Bangladesh to a horrible state. Please build on 1972 constitution. Islam is a great religion, so are Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity. Let us not be selective and give our country of birth a particular religious color.
4. As I have said before, any thing good in the Medina Charter or in any other historical documents have been captured in all the great constitutions without making specific mentions of them.
5. You don't need to update the Medina Charter. You should rather work on updating the present constitution which has collected some garbage over the years.
6. If you are really good with separation of church and state, please be a great advocate for it. Can you explain how Bangladeshi secularism has failed to focus on spiritual and moral guidance.
7. With reference to prosecution of the war criminals, it is very likely that proper verdicts have not been given. Memory of the victims cannot lie. Improper verdicts can well be an AL-Jamat conspiracy! Who knows! It is all power game. ( I am also not happy with all the excesses AL is doing. We deserve more restraints. ) A third party had to come forward. We are proud of them. Good thing is that AL is supporting them. BNP has betrayed.
8. Islamic secular rule (an oxymoron) cannot promote fairness and justice for all. Some groups have to be second class citizens--no doubt about it.
9. It does not matter how much I know about the Ahmadiyas. Who am I to declare them non-Muslims? Many Islamic scholars believe that Jamati interpretations of Islam are heretical. Many Pakistsnis believed and still believe that the Muslims in Bangladesh are not 'sachcha' Muslims.
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1. By saying that "primarily by ISI and initially backed by America. We know how that worked out", you have avoided answering my questions.
>>>>>>>>>> Only Mullah Omar can answer you the best. Rest are guess work. I don't prefer his interpretation of Sharia and if Afghanistan had a better educated leader, it would have been wonderful. All goes back to my consistent stress over Islamic and secular education. A leader has to have education on "Leadership" or at least have some exposure to it. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was very liberal for his time and that spirit needs to be in the hearts of future Islamic leaders.
2. You have love for what is happening in Malaysia, Turkey, and Egypt. What is your opinion about the US (probably your adopted country) and Bangladesh (your motherland) (1972) constitutions? Don't you think that they are better than or at least as good as those of Malayasia, Turkey, and Egypt? Why can't you accept the principle of "separation of church and state"? I don't understand how you prefer, for example, the Muslim Brotherhood (primarily for the Sunni) to the secular rules which theoretically provide equal rights to all citizens. Admittedly even a secular constitution is not perfect. Why can't we build on what we have in such constitutions? Medina Charter happened 1500 hundred years ago. Since then we have advanced and more progressive thoughts. Abolition of slavery and expanded women's rights are two of them. Whatever is good in Medina Charter, I am sure, has been captured in the great constitutions of the world. Why do we have to stick to only the Medina Charter exclusively?
>>>>>>>>>>>> You probably forgot that, earlier I mentioned Bangladesh needs to be little more "Evolved" before it is ready for Islamic rule. We need more education for Muslims and (If it ever happens) future leaders have to be very careful about their responsibilities forwards all citizens. Islam is less about rights and stresses more about responsibilities. Some how this part of Islam is lost among our current Islamic leaders.
I have NOT endorsed the brotherhood BUT I do like that, they waited seventy years and came to power via election. I also like the fact that, their leaders are much less selfish and well educated. They are working with US state department to avoid previous mistakes and it is an encouraging sign.
Medina charter is a 1400 year old constitution. Like the US constitution, it can be "Updated" but like all moral charters, it can a baseline for our future. It has all fundamental needs of modern time, just the application part needs to be examine and Islam DOES permit that sort of interpretation.
Let me make it VERY clear that, I am comfortable with separation of Church and state. However I feel Islam has the best answer for our needs. Nothing more. Secularism have been tried and it does not focus on spiritual and moral guidance of modern people and Islam can offer some "Update" on secular models. Again personal opinion ONLY....
3. This is a time to strongly specifically condemn Jamat-Shibir's heinous activities which you seem to be unwiling to do. This is also the time to criticize BNP for its present role with respect to trial of the war criminals and its position on Jamat-Shibir's heinous activities. One will not do it only if he or she is allied with Jamat-BNP politics. You need to understand that this is a serious moment and it has great implications for our great spirits of the liberation war.
>>>>>>>> People of Bangladesh gave a HUGE mandate to our government on that issue during last election. I do believe in law and order and we the people have done our part. It is job of our elected administration to implement their mandate. We live in a FREE country now and I don't think we should run to streets over and over simply to implement what has been accepted by the majority of people. It is job of government prosecution team to make the case against Jamaat and court will do the rest.
4. I feel good when you say, "However if you want to speak about Jamaat, I do understand where you are coming from." Yes, I come from the big forum which believes in the great spirits (secularism is one of them) of 1971 liberation struggle. Are you coming from a different place? Do you endorse Jamat's anti-Ahmadiya stance?
>>>>>>>>>> I am coming from a place which promotes FAIRNESS and JUSTICE for all. I have written extensively about Ahmadiya issue in this forum. You are welcome to read them. I do not like any type of violence against any faith groups. Ahmadiya sect is NO exception.
5. You are confusing between an Islamic rule and a Muslim rule. An Islamic rule is essentially biased against the religious minorities. Mujib was a Muslim ruler but he believed in the four state principles until the notorious 4th Amendment. Pakistan, an Islamic Republic, cannot have a non-Muslim President. Pakistan has declared Ahmadiyas non-Muslims. Muslim Brotherhood cannot have a woman President.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been posting here for a while. It seems ( I put a lot of hours into it) you have been absorbed them!!
It is some of members in this forum, who make Pakistan and Jamaat as some entities who are representing Islam. I don't feel that way. Jamaat is a political party with religious leaning. They should be treated like any other parties and if they promote violence, they should be punished (Like rest of the political parties).
You have to ask Pakistan why did they declared Ahmadiya's non-Muslim. NOT me!!
Just curious, how much do you know about Ahmadiya's? IF you feel, it was unfair for Pakistan, what are your reasons?
6. If you read holy books critically, you will see that many of the teachings have to be reinterpreted in the light of the present context.
>>>>>>>>> Absolutely. However fundamentals does not change. Thou shall not steal (From Old testament) is still a good law, albeit it is thousands of years old.
