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Tuesday, September 3, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] FW:



Well, you answered your own question. Fence has not been working because people are cutting the fences. So, it is not right to say that these people do not know where the border lies. What choice do Indians have to stop Bangladeshi influx into their country. Arrest these people and fine them? Do you they have money to pay the fine? In another words, you want them to accommodate Bangladeshis and rehabilitate them in their already overcrowded country? As you say India is not a Sweden and yet, you want Indians to behave like Swedes?
Look bro, Indians might be living in the last century but people like you are still stuck in the 7th century.


 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:

 
Bro,

I do not think the fence is effective but I do agree Indian can put up five fences on their land if they wish.

My point is very simple.

India does NOT need to murder unarmed poor people from Bangladesh. It does NOT help India in the long run. India needs to do more to have good relations with all her neighbors. India is living in last century. In 21st century world, we have to grow attitude to work together.

That is why they got the fence. Are you deaf and dumb?

>>>>>>>> No. Indian can put up as many fences they wish to. Firstly they do not work. Secondly India does not need to act like savages with our people. If someone cross border without permission, they can be fined, arrested even jailed. In other words, India needs to act like a civilized nation when it deals with people from Bangladesh.

We should migrate to the countries where we are invited and welcome. It is not worth to take a bullet for  the Indian adventure.

>>>>>>>>> That was NEVER the point I was making. I am NOT asking India to pour milk and honey on trespasser. As long they are unarmed, they do not need to shoot them down like animals.

Why it is so difficult for you to understand. If you spend a little less time on name calling, maybe your brain will get the needed rest for processing simple ideas like this one.

Shalom!!



-----Original Message-----
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2013 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:

 
"99.99% of BANGLADESHI people simply thinks this way. When Indian BSF murders people over trespassing (Often borders are not well defined) it is sad. Specifically if those people are unarmed."

Armed or non armed, we got no business there in India. We can can think whatever we like but we should respect territorial integrity of other countries as we expect the same from the others. It might not be a Sweden but they do not want us trespassing their land. That is why they got the fence. Are you deaf and dumb?

We should migrate to the countries where we are invited and welcome. It is not worth to take a bullet for  the Indian adventure.


 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:

 
Mr. Q. Rahman should think before he talks. His logic is ridiculous. His problem is - his closed mindset, and no rational thought can come out of such mindset;

>>>>>>>>> 99.99% of BANGLADESHI people simply thinks this way. When Indian BSF murders people over trespassing (Often borders are not well defined) it is sad. Specifically if those people are unarmed. Now criminals do get all sort of logistic support from our friendly BSF. If it has to do with smuggling arms, drugs from India.

There is no doubt that those who are getting killed by the BSF must be trying to trespass the Indian border illegally for whatever reason.

>>>>>>>>> Sure. India is like Sweden and if we could just land in it, our lives will be filled with Indian milk and honey??? Right? ;-)

And, the BGB is hardly killing anybody from India is because - no one is crossing the Bangladeshi border illegally

>>>>>>>>> :-D, Now that is funny. Thanks for the laugh.

Or, BGBs are sleeping on the job, and not protecting the border.

>>>>>>>> Sure, you (Sitting in the US) know that Indians cannot make any mistake and all BGB are sleeping on their jobs? All dumb asses. This post is such a joy ride.....


But - these simple logical conclusions cannot even get through the closed minded people. I think it is because of their firm anti-Indian sentiment.

>>>>>> I have been to India and have a firm understanding of how they operate. They have many problems (Like we do here). They have some major issues with ALL of their neighbors. Just calling like I see it. You are welcome to think "Freely" as well.

I like to think of myself as "Pro-Bangladesh" and have no irrational emotion against India. If India violate norms of civilized people when dealing with our people in border area, I do not need to endorse it. If you have a problem with it, you just have to learn to respect MY opinion (Even if you disagree with it). I get along fine with Indians at personal level but my country will always be my first priority (protecting it's people). Don't expect any apology coming your way anytime soon for having this view.

Shalom!




-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2013 9:27 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:

 
Mr. Q. Rahman should think before he talks. His logic is ridiculous. His problem is - his closed mindset, and no rational thought can come out of such mindset; every thought is molded to support a preconceived view on the subject. This is a classic example of the closed minded individuals. You need to be a free minded individual to carry out fair and balanced discussions.

There is no doubt that those who are getting killed by the BSF must be trying to trespass the Indian border illegally for whatever reason.
And, the BGB is hardly killing anybody from India is because - no one is
crossing the Bangladeshi border illegally. Or, BGBs are sleeping on the job, and not protecting the border. But - these simple logical conclusions cannot even get through the closed minded people. I think it is because of their firm anti-Indian sentiment.

Jiten Roy



From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:

 
"More Indians are flocking into Bangladesh because Indian Rupees are down?" - Anybody with such opinion lacks common sense as on losing value of Indian currency, an Indian would have to spend more money to visit any place outside India including Bangladesh.


On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
As I stated earlier, if BGB starts shooting, they will killing many more Bangladeshis than Indian smugglers. No wonder, why they don't shoot. Go and figure out the ground realities around the border areas if you care.
More Indians are flocking into Bangladesh because Indian Rupees are down? What have you been smoking, bud? Why can't BGB catch one?



 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:

 
Indians are not trespassing our territory but we do.


>>>>>>> Don't know which planet do you live in. Indians do tresspass time to time. Sometime by mistake and sometime intentionally. Lots of arms (Around election time), drugs, cows, fruit, sari etc enter Bangladesh (These things cannot walk themselves in). We are talking about good worth billions of dollars.

Now that Indian money worth less (Lost it's value against taka) we are witnessing more tresspassing of human and goods.

Fortunately our BGB does not have savage mentality consistently shown by Indian BSF.

I see NO good reason of defend savages.

Shalom!

-----Original Message-----
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 30, 2013 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:

 
You should be volunteering for that shooting job, bro. If you shoot moving objects at night with your night vision goggles on, you will realize at the dawn that you have mainly killed our Bangladeshi brothers and sisters. Indians are not trespassing our territory but we do. You know very well why is that.

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:43 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] FW:

 

 

Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:03:56 +0600
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