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Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Religious Conversion



The religion is the Opium of the Masses - Karl Marx

There is no better definition for religion. A close family friend of mine recently got severely addicted to his religious belief. His addiction attained such a high level he lost this sense of reality; in my view, he is totally insane now.
 
I have been warning him for years not to exceed the dose of his religious belief, but he kept on increasing the dose. His family tried for years to get him off his addiction, but – nothing worked. He is now isolated from his wife and children. We are very close with his family. He completely ruined such a lovely family. It's a disgrace. I know - this will be the ultimate fate of all religious people, if they cannot control the dose of religion in their lives.

Jiten Roy



On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:04 PM, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Islam adopted much of the pagan practice prevalent before it was born.  Besides the temple/mosque at Mecca was likely been built by a Shaivaite who meant it to be a temple of Ila, a wife of Shiva.  Hajre Aswad is essentially a vaginal symbol as is the icon at Kamrup Kamakshya.   Ila might have easily transformed into Allah, as female Goddess was discarded for a male one.  Jewish patriarchs are parts of fiction as much as Adam and Eve is.  Present day Hinduism is largely influenced by Islam; there are evidences of Bhagvat Gita being concocted in Baghdad.  When Lord Krishna says, among the Generals he is Skanda(Alexander the Great), he definitely indicates the Kurukshetra war as a post Alexander phenomenon. 


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dr. Das,
 
You are probably pointing at the written texts of Hinduism; I am pointing at the ritualistic worshiping practices of human-beings. As you know - Arabian people were deity worshipers before Islam was born. I am referring to those Pagan religious activities that Hindus still continue today.
Indus Valley civilization was between 3000 - 1500 B.C., and Vedic Era was between 1200 - 900 B.C.  The classic period of Mayan Society in South America was during 300 – 900 AD, so you can see how old is these practices are.
 
The theme of this blog was to point out the ancillary aftershock of religious conversion, and I did not want to distract readers from the theme with nutty-gritty historical facts; I just mentioned some simple facts to get my points across. I learned this trick from one of my mentors; he said – first try to describe your ideas in simple language, if possible, instead of relying onto complex mathematical expressions. I follow that advice in whatever I write.
 
Also, I am not historian; it's your field of expertise. I am not necessarily challenging your argument that some written texts of Hinduism may have come after the birth of Islam; but, basic religious practices are much older than that.

Thanks.

Jiten Roy




On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:43 PM, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:
 
"Historically, Hinduism is one of the oldest religions on earth, and Islam is the newest."- This, among many others in your article, is an oversimplification of fact. Like Abrahamic religions, 'Hinduism' has not been delivered by a messiah/prophet.  Much of it has been invented by men long after its followers think.  Vyas Dev, credited with writing most of the Purana and editing Veda into four volumes,was really Badrayana, a philosopher of 9th century A.D.  That makes 'Hinduism' younger than Islam, doesn't it?
Another major question to your article, was the single land mass of the entire earth, Pangeas, populated with homo sapiens?


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Please have a look at the blog, entitled : Religious Conversion, by clicking on the following link:


Thank you.

Jiten Roy








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