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Thursday, December 26, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] কাদের মোল্লার আসল নকল: একটি নির্মোহ অনুসন্ধান



Since the name of this forum is "Mukto-Mona", I try to stay true to that label. Minar rashid came up with some ideas worth thinking and Moderator/member Avijit wrote on a known issue and I liked the way he presented his ideas (Dispassionately with data and logic).

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2013 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] কাদের মোল্লার আসল নকল: একটি নির্মোহ অনুসন্ধান

 
It is not about understanding you. It is about the perception your readers have about you after reading series of your posts. They tell a lot about you. This is true for every one including myself. Minar Rashid's article to you is interesting and thought provoking while Dr. Avijit Roy's article is nothing but a propagation tool. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 25, 2013, at 3:57 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 
Member Subimol,

IF you have some problem UNDERSTANDING what I said (Even when I supported member Avijit) it is your problem. I am not a blind supporter of any political parties. Since both major parties married to Jamat and Jatiya party whenever it got them to power. It is a CHOICE I made to support positive actions instead of attaching my rump with any "Brand" of politics.

I decide HOW and WHAT I write and I take RESPONSIBILITIES for them. If you disagree with some of it (I know we agree in many areas), no need to go "Savage" on me!!

The case against Kader Molla needed this kind of research and dedication shown by member Avijit and Arif Rahman. Just because Pak Army acted like savages, we do not need act like them.

We can answer them with our civility and intellect intact. We do not need to throw rock at Pakistan embassy but NOTHING stops our foreign ministry to DEMAND justice for known murderers and rape camp operators during 71. It is unfortunate that, we (Those who are lucky to have some education) succumbed to drama (Refering to gonojagoron walk at Pak Embassy) over positive MORAL action. WE can demand JUSTICE without being hateful to common Pakistanis. In fact lot of Pakistanis support our cause and our call for justice. Majority of Pakistanis are not aware of what actually happened during 71. So it is unwise to become hostile to a twenty year old Pakistani boy today. This is how I look at things.

I liked what member Avijit put together (Using his brain not hate).

People from other corners of the world can ask questions (Since it is an old issue) we have to be ready to answer them without becoming emotional. Most Bangladeshis do not support any kind of criminal acts by anyone.

This message was strongly sent to BNP, as Khaleda spoke exclusively and clearly about her plans about protection of minority lives and properties (In her last speech).

As long we keep demanding clarity and positive actions, it will eventually come.

Shalom!




-----Original Message-----
From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 24, 2013 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] কাদের মোল্লার আসল নকল: একটি নির্মোহ অনুসন্ধান

 
Dr. Avijit Roy has "propagated" his own point of view! Mr. QR cannot see Avijit's write-up as bolstering the court verdict with evidences and logical analysis. Even BNP has not openly contested the verdict and supported Jamaat action directly. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2013, at 4:29 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 
Thank you for your efforts and research. This is the proper way to propagate your point of view.

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Avijit Roy <charbak_bd@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 23, 2013 8:09 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] কাদের মোল্লার আসল নকল: একটি নির্মোহ অনুসন্ধান

 
This article has been published in BDNews24:

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অভিজিৎ রায়আরিফ

রহমান

কাদের মোল্লার আসল নকল: একটি নির্মোহ অনুসন্ধান

ডিসেম্বর ২৩, ২০১৩
একততরর কখযত যদধপরধ ও 'মরপরর কসই' খযত আবদল কদর মলল
একাত্তরের কুখ্যাত যুদ্ধাপরাধী ও 'মিরপুরের কসাই' খ্যাত আবদুল কাদের মোল্লা
যুদ্ধাপরাধী কাদের মোল্লার ফাঁসি হয়েছে। এটা আমাদের জন্য একটা বিরাট অর্জন, বলাই বাহুল্য। এবারের বিজয় দিবস এবং সেই সঙ্গে নতুন বছরের আগমনটাই যেন ভিন্নমাত্রায় পৌঁছে গেছে এই অর্জনের ফলে। যুদ্ধাপরাধী রাজাকার-আলবদরদের বিচারের যে আকাঙ্ক্ষা একটা সময় আমাদের রক্তে শিহরণ তুলত, একটা অপ্রাপ্তির বেদনা গ্রাস করে ফেলত বছর খানেক আগেও, সেটা থেকে যেন আমরা মুক্তি পেয়েছি।
অন্তত একজন যুদ্ধাপরাধীর বিচারের কাজ সম্পন্ন করতে পেরেছি নানা ধরনের বিতর্ক, প্রতিবন্ধকতা, বিশ্বমোড়লদের তরফ থেকে দেওয়া আন্তর্জাতিক চাপ সবকিছু অগ্রাহ্য করে। এটা যে কত বড় অর্জন তা বোধহয় আমরা কেউ বুঝতে পারছি না। এই দিনটা দেখার স্বপ্ন আমরা বুকের মধ্যে লালন করেছিলাম বহুদিন ধরে।
কিন্তু আমরা কী দেখলাম? কাদের মোল্লা=


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