There are merely a handful of such UK resident imams.
They move freely in the country only because of British liberal traditions which are codified in the law.
It is up to Parliament, the judiciary and the security services to do whatever is needed to maintain order and find the balance between civil liberties and internal security.
Action is being taken, but too slowly. This slowness has negative consequences for British society.
The problem with British Muslims is that they are not really organized and those who purport to speak on our behalf are incompetent at best.
The fact is that the bad imams are obviously boycotted by British Muslims.
The fact is that Muslim communities are still socially conservative. Public protest on religious grounds is not what we do. Marching against the war on Iraq was political – not religious.
Still, I know people who are organizing small campaigns to stand up against these few mad mullahs.
I'm a British Muslim. And, like my fellow citizens, am mad that the government is not more aggressive in its actions against such Mullahs.
Anjem Chowdhury is a bum. He is sought out and promoted not by British Muslims – but by the media.
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Subject: RE: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
These UK resident Imams are not yet boycotted by devout British Muslims. They have more political clout than Anjem Choudary (who was imprisoned on terror charges and released on bail later). http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/26/anjem-choudary-released-on-bail
The devout Muslims of the world should not play ostrich anymore. The time is now for them to stand up against this diabolical mullahs, who are giving a bad name to Islam.
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Subject: RE: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:18:24 +0000And you are marketing him as an authoritative representative?
Please remove me from this thread and all threads like this.
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Subject: RE: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
British Islamist Abu Baraa In Support Of ISIS: We Can Start Having Slave Girls Again
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4551.htm
In several videos, posted on the Internet during July and August, British Islamist Mizanur Rahman (a.k.a. Abu Baraa) came out in defense of the Islamic State. According to Abu Baraa, non-Muslims would benefit from the jizya poll tax, to be paid once they live under the Caliphate. The possession of slavegirls would also be permissible, he said.
Click here to view this clip on MEMRI TV
Abu Baraa: "For the last 90 years, people have been waiting for the Caliphate. Some people have been waiting, and some people have been working for the Caliphate. This is the difference between the one who has just been sitting and waiting in the mosque, making dhikr and hoping for it to come from the sky, and those who have been sacrificing and spilling their own blood and health, going to prison, traveling the lands, fighting Jihad, working to establish the Caliphate on the earth."
[...]
"For 90 years, we have lived without any caliphate. For 90 years, we have been living in darkness, ruled over by man-made laws, by tyrants, who oppressed the people, and all of the people had to obey them and their legislation, instead of Allah. Now, Allah be praised, this is the first sermon of my life in which I can fulfill some of the laws of the Prophet, which ordered us and recommended for the preacher and the people to make du'wa and ask Allah to correct, to guide, and to protect the Great Imam, the Sultan, the Emir of Believers, or the Caliph of the Muslims. These titles were used for certain people in the past. We have never had anybody to call by these names for the last 90 years. So now we have, today, after the declaration of the Caliphate, for the first time in 90 years, we can make du'wa and fulfill that sunna."
[...]
"The question is not how the Islamic State is going to survive against the American airstrikes. How is America going to survive against the Islamic State's defense and retaliation? This is the real question. I do not believe they are going to survive. I think it is already over for America. They don't want to admit it, but it's over. They can no longer go on a warship and declare: 'Mission accomplished.' Now they should say: 'Mission failed.' It is over. This is how we need to look at the reality. Especially if the Muslims wake up and unite behind the Caliphate... Stop playing games and sitting on the sidelines, watching: 'Oh, the Americans are killing our brothers from the Islamic State. I wonder how they are going to do.' Do something about it! You've got to think about the reality. The world is divided into two camps. Make sure that you are on the side of the Muslims. You shouldn't be on the side of the infidels, nor should you be on the fence, neutral, saying: 'This has nothing to do with me.' You have to defend the Muslims. Whether you like them or not, whether you disagree or agree, does not matter."
[...]
"The question of children being trained and learning about fighting - of course, this is encouraged in Islam. Children understand that there is compulsory military service in Islam. So when they reach the age of maturity, the age of 15, and become adults, they will need to fight. You don't order someone to fight if they don't know how to fight. So it is a duty upon the state to provide training for the people, and to prepare themselves for that..."
[...]
"It should be part and parcel of the education system in the Islamic State that children are taught these skills, so that they will always grow up ready for their duty when they reach the age of 15."
[...]
"Do you know how much jizya they are charging in the Islamic State now? It is the equivalent of about 400 pounds a year. No income tax, no national insurance - nothing..."
Audience Member: "No council tax, no TV tax, no road tax..."
Abu Baraa: "None of this. There are no taxes. There's no VAT."
[...]
"These people pay so much tax - they don't even understand. Living in the U.K. is expensive because of the taxes, because of the interest, because of all the capitalist system. All that is removed, and all you pay is this small amount."
[...]
"They are saying that they would rather pay all of the VAT, all of the income tax, all of the council tax, and all of the national insurance, and all of every other tax that you can imagine. They'd rather pay all of that than pay 400-500 pounds a year. Not only that, but it's only the able-bodied man who pays the jizya. The disabled or elderly get a pension. They don't pay the jizya. The women and children don't pay any jizya ever. A woman never pays jizya. She is allowed to work, but she never pays jizya, nor does she pay income tax. My brother, what is better for them? The problem is that they don't see it. They close their eyes to it. When they hear it, it's as if they can't believe it: 'No, it can't be like that.' For them, it's a dream come true. They have lived for so long in an oppressive state that they can't even imagine a life without these taxes. So they don't understand. The jizya is something so good for them, better for them than anything else they've ever experienced."
[...]
"This is just a matter of styles and means of how they will be humiliated. They are humiliated anyway by their own heresy and their own polytheism. They are humiliated by their own dress - they have to dress differently from the Muslims. They will be humiliated because their houses will never be equal to the houses of the Muslims. They will never be allowed to ride a horse while the Muslims don't have horses. Non-Muslim men cannot ride a horse like a man in the Islamic State. They have to ride like a woman, with two legs on one side, because they need to be humiliated, and they should not be similar to the Muslims."
[...]
"Can a father change the nappy of his baby daughter? It's allowed, but it's not the normal suitable role of the father. It should be done by the mother. That is obviously part of the modesty and shyness..."
[...]
"If there are other women - of course it is better for them (to do it). A sister, a mother, a mother-in-law, a grandmother, an auntie - whatever... If there is somebody else, it is better for them, Allah willing. Or a slavegirl... Nowadays, we can start to return to some of the many other rulings of Islam, which have been absent for many years. Now that we have the Caliphate, we can have slavegirls in the Caliphate."
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Subject: Re: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
From: msa40@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:06:17 -0400
Buying and selling captive women is an Islamic act. Allah has made it halal for the Muslims!
Mohammad Asghar
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Subject: RE: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
FROM THE NEWS DESK OF THE WASHINGTON POST
Islamic State says it is buying and selling Yazidi women, using them as concubines
Members of Iraq's Yazidi minority speak about the atrocities they suffered under Islamic State militants. (Reuters)
By Loveday Morris October 12
BAGHDAD — The Islamic State extremist organization boasted Sunday that it had enslaved women from an Iraqi minority group in order to use them as concubines, as a rights organization detailed teenagers being bought and sold by fighters for as little as $1,000.
An English-language propaganda magazine for the Islamic State said that Yazidi women and children were considered spoils of war after they were captured as the militants seized their towns and villages. It was the first confirmation from the group of widespread allegations of detention and sexual abuse against Yazidi women.
Hundreds of thousands of members of the ancient sect were displaced as the Islamic State swept through the Sinjar area of northern Iraq in August, prompting President Obama to warn of an unfolding genocide. Those who fled said that while men had been massacred, hundreds of women and children had been detained.
After detaining the Yazidis, the Islamic State systematically separated young women and teenage girls from their families, New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a report that also came out on Sunday.
"The Islamic State's litany of horrific crimes against the Yazidis in Iraq only keeps growing," said Fred Abrahams, a special adviser at HRW. The group documented 366 Yazidis who were being held captive but also said some detainees reached by phone reported that the number was more than 1,000. The Iraqi government said that 1,500 women were detained during the advances in the Sinjar area, which is also home to Christian and Shiite minorities.
A 14-year-old girl from Tel Uzer, Iraq in the Nineveh plains area, with the alias "Narin", was given to a member of the Islamic State as his wife. "Narin" escaped and is now hiding in northern Iraqi Kurdistan. (Hassan Haji /Hassan Haji for The Washington Post)One 15-year-old girl interviewed after she had escaped told the group that the Palestinian Islamic State militant she had been sold to bought her for $1,000.
The women and children were divided among fighters according to Islamic law, the Islamic State magazine, called Dabiq, said.
"The enslaved Yazidi families are now sold by the Islamic State soldiers," it continued. The article argued that although Christians and Jews can be offered the chance to pay a tax or convert, Yazidis, as polytheists, can be enslaved if captured during war.
It goes on to detail the argument for enslavement under its extremist interpretation of Islam, boasting that it's the largest mass-enslavement since the early days of the religion.
"One should remember that enslaving the families of the [nonbelievers] and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of Islamic law," the magazine said. "Their creed is so deviant from the truth that even cross-worshipping Christians for ages considered them devil worshippers and Satanists."
The rejection of slavery has led to an increase in adultery and fornication, it said, because men who can't afford marriage find themselves surrounded by temptation, including by maids. "If she were his concubine, this relationship would be legal," it said.
None of the Yazidi women interviewed by HRW said they had been raped, but sexual assault is deeply stigmatized in the conservative sect.
One interviewed by the group said she'd seen "brides" taken from both a school and prison she was held in.
"Some were as young as 12 or 13, and up to age 20," she said. "Some they had to pull away with force. Some of the young women were married but without children, so [the Islamic State soldiers] didn't believe they were married."
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:53:07 -0400
Subject: shahdeeldar@gmail.comHow a God tells His followers to kill, plunder and banish if you do not belong to the 'right' religion? Either God is wrong or we humans have gotten it totally wrong? The verses are troubling and need to be modified to make sure that there is no ambiguity exists between what God has conveyed and what he did not. This is 21st century, where knowledge and facts rule!
-SD
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Jamal Hasan <poplu@hotmail.com> wrote:
Here is a video link where Dr. Zuhdi Jasser speaks at Oslo Freedom Forum 2010: "How Islam Works with Democracy":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P35E31THd8
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You said,
"... Good job,Dr. Jasser. Muslims believe that Quran is the words of God that were revealed to Prophet Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. If they are words of God, why would you reform God's words. I understand there are scope of different interpretation.and it has been taking place for in so many different places i so many different circumstances and it will continue until it fits every culture and every society. It is a continuous process..."
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 16:43:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
From: rezaulkarim617@gmail.com
To: poplu@hotmail.com
The debate reminded me of a great western scholar.The world knows George Bernard Shaw, a famous scholar,a writer and non-Muslim. He said this about Prophet Muhammad (P) and peace in the world, "He must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it much needed peace and happiness."
[The Genuine Islam, Singapore, Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936]
Yes, what's happening in the Muslim world and middle east are horrible. But remember it has increased many fold after 9/11 and the west military campaign are mostly responsible. and after especially after the failed Iraq invasion to bring democracy there.
My friends, Islam is a religion of peace. As a Muslim,let me say that Muslims do not believe that Islam is a new religion, it's the summation and culmination of all monotheistic religions from Adam to Muhammad.(peace be on all of them). All prophets are prophets of Islam..My feeling was that this debate was an attempt and a total set up to demonize Islam as a religion and Muslims as wanted religious minority in America that goes against the very constitution. Good job,Dr. Jasser. Muslims believe that Quran is the words of God that were revealed to Prophet Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. If they are words of God, why would you reform God's words. I understand there are scope of different interpretation.and it has been taking place for in so many different places i so many different circumstances and it will continue until it fits every culture and every society. It is a continuous process.
May Allah forgive me for saying anything contrary as I'm not an authority in Islam, but I can participate with my free mind on anything, even issues with religion, my religion, my peace of mind, my connection with God, our God. May God bless us all. Hating Islam and Muslims won't take the civilization anywhere as one humanity.
Thanks..
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jamal Hasan <poplu@hotmail.com> wrote:
Folks,
Following the path of civility, let us gain the strength of agreeing to disagree. I am pasting below an interesting discussion on Islam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns5NafChPsI
Published on Sep 24, 2014Article with comments at: http://www.westernfreepress.com/?p=26...
Are you tired of sound-bite discussions on the subject of "radical Islam"? Would you like to hear a deeper discussion?
THIS VIDEO is a high-quality, Lincoln-Douglas-style debate between two articulate speakers who have deep knowledge of the subject. The title is "Understanding Islam: Threat or Faith".
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser is a devout Muslim well-known nationally from his many appearances on television, especially Fox News. Dr. Carl Goldberg is an historian who has devoted a major portion of his life to studying the Quran, the Haddith, and writings of Islamic scholars and Imams, both old and new.
This debate is moderated by Shane Krauser of www.FreedomFires.com
0:02:45 Opening statements
0:07:50 Can Islam and Political Islam be separated?
0:17:45 What is the cause of the radicalization of Islam?
0:27:30 Can Muslims be loyal Americans and US soldiers?
0:38:09 Can Sharia be consistent with American law?
0:48:30 Was Muhammed an honorable man? Does it matter?
0:59:10 Is reform of Islam possible? What would it look like?
1:09:25 Can Islam be consistent with our 1st Amendment?
1:20:50 What are short- and long-term strategies to protect America from radical Islamism
1:32:50 What should our foreign policy toward OIC nations?
1:44:20 Closing arguments
Enjoy viewing.
-Jamal Hasan
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 10:55:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
From: shahdeeldar@gmail.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com
"There is a need for reform, review and renewal in areas of Islam. Islam is too decentralized and we need proper
leadership."-Rahman
What would you reform? The Book or the behavior of it's stringent followers, who want to go for the purest version of it to please the God? The venom of hatred and violence is well spread in the entire body that no antidote can do the magic anymore. If this is called a religion of peace, then who needs the war?Good luck, my friend! The new leadership would not a chance against the daggers and terror. Thank you.
-SD
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