Good points. But I beg to respectfully disagree.
1. I never try to be politically correct. It should be clear from my writings. Please correct me if I am wrong.
2. This forum is full of people with highest academic degrees. Also respectfully disagreeing is one of the policies of the forum. Showing civility is necessary. Das does not follow rules. It is an open forum, not his house. He should not create public nuisance. The way he attacks some one personally is deplorable. For example, very recently he wondered if I am getting money from Islamic NGOs. I will not stoop so low and utter a similar wonderment. We had some one called in short QR in this forum. I don't see him any more. He pretended to be very religious. One time he got so mad that he asked me what I would do if my son wanted to marry a goat. I don't remember the topic. Probably it was about gay rights. He simply showed the intolerance of a fanatic mollah. Das also sometimes behaves like an intolerant fanatic. This is not acceptable.
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On Nov 29, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
One thing that is very obvious to me here is that those giants had to be politically correct in the public. Please do not ask why? What went behind the locked doors, that could be totally opposite and surprising. I am afraid, we would never know what was those people were really thinking?Prof Chakrabarty has right to think different as our minds are not always judging the things exactly same way as every time we face very similar issues. That does not make a person self contradictory. A relative deviation is OK and maybe not too bad for a great discussion. If we are to agree on everything, that would be sad day for this forum.Prof. Das is rather a sharp shooter with no political correctness. He adds fuel to the fire and makes the discussions hot and fiery. Such people are required to go beyond certain mental inhibitions of this forum. Is he right all the time? Can he show some respect for other posters so that things do not get out of control? Maybe? But having seen so many posters in this world with their unique characteristics, his remarks do not bother me. I would take them with some grains of salt and humor.-SD"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-SeussOn Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:36 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
"To me, Najrul. Rabindranath, Gandhi, and many other intellectuals/philosophers/politicians were wrong when they talked about selected good parts of Islam, especially when they failed to ask people to discard the parts that can be used to make the world hell."That's exactly my view also, thanks.We all have brains to judge good and bad. Unfortunately, some people look at others' opinions for their own opinions. This is what I see in Mr. Chakraborty. It seems like - he is unable to express his own mind without quoting others. These individuals could be pointing to some good things about Islam for political correctness or some other reasons, we don't know.We cannot just use some good things about something to defend it; you need to take into account good and bad together to judge anything. A religiously motivated person would only talk about good things to defend his/her religion. When an atheist do that, to praise a religion, I don't see truthfulness in it; rather, I see cowardice and appeasement in this behavior.This is not the first time I saw this tendency of him; this has been his traits for years. He says he is an atheist, but never defends his view, instead he defends a religion. I have gone through this many times with him in the past.The truth is - religion is not peaceful; they are all violent. So, when someone tries to prove - his/her religion is peaceful, either he does not know his religion or this is the propaganda to camouflage the violent nature of his religion.Jiten Roy
From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:59 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] A Copy of the Koran for Subimal Chakrabarty
I am posting this in honor of Professor Subimal Chakrabarty for the following post in which he stated, "my knowledge about the Koran is extremely limited.":In this information age, learning about almost anything is possible and free. The following translation of the Koran was certified to be authentic by a religious Muslim friend of mine:I hope Professor Chakrabarty would read it, and randomly talk about what are in the Koran. Selecting verses that sound great to praise the religion would be dishonest and a disservice to humanity, especially when too many followers of Islam, including the Islamic State barbarians, try to follow everything. To too many followers, everything in the Koran and Hadit are to be followed, irrespective of where that would take the world/humanity. (Of course, they follow without thinking; they do not have the capacity to think logically.)To me, Najrul. Rabindranath, Gandhi, and many other intellectuals/philosophers/politicians were wrong when they talked about selected good parts of Islam, especially when they failed to ask people to discard the parts that can be used to make the world hell.I am not interested in opening up anyone's holy book to criticize it; I want the followers themselves to try to open up their minds, to do the criticizing themselves, and to be able discard what should be discarded.Sukhamaya Bain
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