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Saturday, November 29, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] A Copy of the Koran for Subimal Chakrabarty



Dr. Roy
I am a confirmed atheist no doubt and I have been atheist for the last forty-seven years. There has been no deviation. But I am respectful to people who are religious. All my relatives including my wife and most of my friends are believers. I live among the believers. I go to pujas. My wife performs rituals and arranges pujas at home. I happily live with among the believers. I am sure we all do. Dr. Bain (a confirmed atheist) who is personally known to me sends money to his village in Bangladesh for pujas. I get emails from Priyobangla from which I know that one of the most active members of the forum organizes pujas. There is nothing wrong in it. Religious festivals are part of our culture. Participation by an atheist in it does not make him a believer. 

Moreover, an atheist does not have to be a good man. Although he does not have a religion, he can pretty well be a communalist in his personal life and political life as well. 

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On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

"To me, Najrul. Rabindranath, Gandhi, and many other intellectuals/philosophers/politicians were wrong when they talked about selected good parts of Islam, especially when they failed to ask people to discard the parts that can be used to make the world hell."
That's exactly my view also, thanks.
We all have brains to judge good and bad. Unfortunately, some people look at others' opinions for their own opinions. This is what I see in Mr. Chakraborty. It seems like - he is unable to express his own mind without quoting others. These individuals could be pointing to some good things about Islam for political correctness or some other reasons, we don't know.   
We cannot just use some good things about something to defend it; you need to take into account good and bad together to judge anything. A religiously motivated person would only talk about good things to defend his/her religion. When an atheist do that, to praise a religion, I don't see truthfulness in it; rather, I see cowardice and appeasement in this behavior.
This is not the first time I saw this tendency of him; this has been his traits for years. He says he is an atheist, but never defends his view, instead he defends a religion. I have gone through this many times with him in the past.
The truth is - religion is not peaceful; they are all violent. So, when someone tries to prove - his/her religion is peaceful, either he does not know his religion or this is  the propaganda to camouflage the violent nature of his religion.      
Jiten Roy

 

From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 7:59 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] A Copy of the Koran for Subimal Chakrabarty

 
I am posting this in honor of Professor Subimal Chakrabarty for the following post in which he stated, "my knowledge about the Koran is extremely limited.":
 
In this information age, learning about almost anything is possible and free. The following translation of the Koran was certified to be authentic by a religious Muslim friend of mine:
 
 
I hope Professor Chakrabarty would read it, and randomly talk about what are in the Koran. Selecting verses that sound great to praise the religion would be dishonest and a disservice to humanity, especially when too many followers of Islam, including the Islamic State barbarians, try to follow everything. To too many followers, everything in the Koran and Hadit are to be followed, irrespective of where that would take the world/humanity. (Of course, they follow without thinking; they do not have the capacity to think logically.)
 
To me, Najrul. Rabindranath, Gandhi, and many other intellectuals/philosophers/politicians were wrong when they talked about selected good parts of Islam, especially when they failed to ask people to discard the parts that can be used to make the world hell.
 
I am not interested in opening up anyone's holy book to criticize it; I want the followers themselves to try to open up their minds, to do the criticizing themselves, and to be able discard what should be discarded.
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
 




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