You twist again! Babylonian contribution to math is more significant than that of Egypt, and even the former is said to be inspired by Indians. It may not be all from sulvasutra in the appendix of the Vedic literature as claimed by Gautier. It was not the sacrificial altars only. Ancient Indians were good in tracking heavenly bodies. It required sophisticated use of different branches of mathematics. What you believe in is less important than the truth. Be less superficial, explore the depth. The whole world has respect for antiquated Indian knowledge on science and astronomy. Apparently a few ignorant Brahmins don't. Even Maxmuller was critical of them.
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On Nov 16, 2014, at 9:57 AM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I don't believe in Vedic math. How can I be proud of it! I would be proud if I know that the ancient india contributed to development of mathematical and astronomical theories. That's all I said. Math is a tool. And it has always been like this. It has been said that the Egyptians developed and used it to keep track of land overflooded by the Nile. One use of it by the ancient Indians was to create various shapes of sacrificial altars. They used and maybe developed math that would serve their religious purpose. Vedas has a religious meaning. It should be mixed up with math or science. If it is done, the Vedas will lose their relevance and math and science as distinct disciplines in the modern era will lose their true meanings. The politicians should not confuse common people and make them mentally crippled.
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On Nov 15, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Only a few days ago, you were not inclined to take pride in something called Vedic math. Today, you are also proud of it. It should be clear to all about who is good at twisting. Arab contribution to civilization was to conquer the great civilizations of Persia, Mesopotamia, Egypt, Spain, India, Constantinople, and bring those down. You should read history before making "wise" comments. Arab un civilization expanded because the Persians collapsed from inside.
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On Nov 15, 2014, at 7:34 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Nice Mr. Das! You are good at twisting. You are probably agreeing that by an Arab country one has to mean a country where people predominantly speak Arabic. Over time spoken and written languages have evolved. Political map has changed many a time. But the fact remains that one has the right to be proud of all good things that happened historically in the parts of the country he lives in now. You are now proud of contribution of ancient india to math. So am I. But what was the position of the area we live in now? Not respectable at all in the eyes of the Aryans.I will request Mr. Das to explain to elaborate a little bit more on "Bedouin 'unculture' of the Arabs". Don't they have any contribution to civilization? I understand a nomadic life is not in a position to show much creativity. But once settled down, it is possible. Origin and quick expansion of a great religion like Islam is a prime example.
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On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:As usual, Chakrabarty flaunts his ignorance. Iraq is predominantly Arab today. It was Assyrian before Arab conquest, and in its glorious days of Sumerian civilization, it was Phoenician. In the Abbasid regime, the culture was essentially Persian.
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On Nov 13, 2014, at 11:12 AM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Pythagoras was born more than 2500 years ago. I have never claimed the superiority of the Bedouin "unculture"? Why has Das so much hatred for Arab culture? Iraq is an Arab country. Iraq's contribution to civilization is well known.
Sent from my iPhoneI don't know what Das is talking about. Have I mentioned Algebra or Bedouin in any of my recent posts? He is just showing off as usual. Pythagoras was a student of Indian math and philosophy! I have to check. Any reference please. Pythagoras was born about 4000 years ago. Right?
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On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:The guy who 'invented' algebra called the system Indian Math. Even Pythagoras had been a student of Indian Math and Philosophy. S. Chakrabarty has his mindset on the superiority of the Bedouin un culture of the Arabs. We can always pardon an ill informed Brahmin for his lack of knowledge. Can't we, Dr. Roy?
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On Nov 11, 2014, at 7:42 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:"I am not inclined to take pride in some thing called Vedic math."Look, Pal, Modi's message was for the people, like you, who are ashamed to take pride of their own heritages. When I tried to remind that point, some of you started to attack me without understanding my message. Someone even accused me of 'falsification,' which turned out to be meant for 'exaggeration.'As I said before, Indus Valley civilization is one of the oldest civilizations in the world (5000 years old). When I tried to remind that heritage, you try to find excuses to demean them. Vedic era is ~3500 years old, it has brought so much enlightenment to people in that region, which people are still making use of. But, instead of being proud of them, you are bringing Chinese, Greek, and English literatures. This was the point Modi was making.I know, if the same talk was given by President Kalam or Mukharjee, we would not be talking about it. So, it was not the message, but the messenger, that was wrong.Look, when someone counter comments against mine, I look forward to learn something from it; this is just waste of time talking about something that should be obvious to all of you.Jiten Roy
