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Wednesday, March 25, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] Where has all the tolerance gone



Of course the punishment needs to be proportional to the crime. When Dr. Bain says intolerance to bribery is justified, he does not mean to suggest that punishment should be equal to all criminals irrespective of the gravity of their crimes. That would be a miscarriage of justice. 
 




On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 6:59 AM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I agree with SuBain's first paragraph - openness of mind is more important than any academic qualification. 
But I do not agree with 2nd and 3rd paragraphs. Whether be 'tolerant' or 'intolerant', the response must be fair and proportionate. SuBain said that he is quite happy with intolerance for bribe culture. Would he treat 100 taka bribe (probably taken by low ranking clerks) and 100 million taka bribe (probably taken by top ranking ministers) equally? If bribery is treated as totally intolerant issue, would he be prepared to give somebody life imprisonment for bribery or, even worse, hang him for this crime? A sense of proportion must be applied.

_ Anis Rahman


From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015, 21:23
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Where has all the tolerance gone

 
Actually, it is a much bigger and more intractable problem than intolerance. The problem is lack of education, lack of development of human minds. When I say education, I mean ability of reasoning, not academic degrees. In fact, when the mind is a zombie that follows instructions from religious books, the human common sense and intelligence are gone, the ability to think is nowhere to be found; and nothing can be on the way of following the imaginary God's words. Barbaric intolerance is only a corollary to that bondage of human minds.
 
I do not think it is appropriate for anyone to think that they tolerated humanists like Dr. Avijit Roy. Rational thoughts are for learning from, for developing human minds. We tolerate faults that are not very harmful; and humanism is not a fault by any means. It is for all kinds of humans, including the Muslims, to live in a just and peaceful world.
 
In fact, intolerance, when done right, is needed. For example I am fine with any force that would be totally intolerant of the bribe culture in places like Bangladesh.
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
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On Monday, March 23, 2015 6:07 PM, "'mahfuzur@aol.com' mahfuzur@aol.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 
My apologies to you all. Here is (I hope) the correct link to the article in The Daily Star, March 16, 2015.
 
 
 
                                         http://www.thedailystar.net/op-ed/politics/where-has-the-tolerance-gone-71746
 
 
Mahfuzur Rahman








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