A true Muslim is always fear of Hell
and keep crying from the punishment in grave. -Razzak
Kafir believed their god as unforgiving to those who are not totally obident. When Almighty is ever merciful. Swaping muslim with kafir in your above quote would have made perfect sense to then kafir.
You are not the first one to use that tact, but how this crept into muslim culture. I suspect, omar and his lackey. Omar liked to remebered as a kind hearted, when was quick to beheading. When a person start beliving beheading act of kindness, they already lost great part of humanity in them. And to them message of peace, equality and merciful God ring hollow; dominance like kafir days are back in fashion. His message overides Prophet's message. Adding conflicting message in the revision and claiming as original work is afront to Prophet's preaching. Omars claim was protected for 2 decades with swords, by then that got establish as truth in many mind.
People get beheaded for not taking omars revision as Almightys word. Now Omar worshiping are now the stewards of Islam. That explains why muslims get killed by muslims. And more Muslim leave their community to live among people ftom other beliefs. Other scale down their religious practices to keep their sanity. Today Rohinga children for the reputation omar worshiper ( hardcore sunni and wahbis) in Islamic grabs. Shia, dont worship omar but Ali.
Razzak, i am still waiting for the verse in Quran that you claim , has mentioned "hur pori". I got news for you, those words dont exist un tha Book. This goes to show after Prophet passed Islamic messages changed. I came accrosd more than one verson of Prophets speech on his last haj. But no mention of jihad in any version. Now jihad and hur pori are the operating words to accepeted as practicing muslim.
Fools dont need logic find beheading caliphah kind and great hearted. There are some account of his kindness but that doesnt absolve of cruelties. I knew a guy who was kind to many, then turn out be a mass murder.
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On Mon, 10/2/17, 'Razzak Syed' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।
To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
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Date: Monday, October 2, 2017, 2:51 AM
Stupid fools like you may get
tempted with Hur Pori. A true Muslim is always fear of Hell
and keep crying for escaping the punishment in the grave.
Hur Pori awarded to shahba's who struggled most to
establish Islam.
Read the
Quran carefully with open heart, you will find the answer.
In one of the verses it's clearly mentioned:
"আল্লাহ
আরেকটি দৃষ্টান্ত
বর্ণনা করেছেন,
দু'ব্যক্তির, একজন বোবা
কোন কাজ করতে পারে না।
সে মালিকের উপর বোঝা।
যেদিকে তাকে পাঠায়,
কোন সঠিক কাজ করে আসে
না। সে কি সমান হবে ঐ
ব্যক্তির, যে ন্যায়
বিচারের আদেশ করে এবং
সরল পথে কায়েম
রয়েছে।"
Under current situations we Muslims are like
'Dumb', we can't do anything for our
'Deen', including myself. We will be lucky if only
can escape the hell fire n punishment in the grave, which
none can imagine, how tough it will be.
May Allah (SWT) save us from the Hell Fire.
Razzak A. Syed
Sent from my
iPhone
>
On 2 Oct 2017, at 5:08 pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> I think
you are missguiding when suggested prophet got it wrong on
gxamut. Hur pori pimp had it all figure out for you. I
ticked you off, exposing Omar, lied.about imortality. He
was behead by his slave, whom he claimed as a reward from
Almighty, when He never approve of slavary. His beheading
was devine retribution. If dont believe in the reason for
qymat that prophet outlined, you are not true believer, just
anothet hyphanated muslims who lost their omar as sudo
prophet. Some worship him or ali. They see hadis and revised
Koran, which is full of contridictions as the Almighty
words. He is owner of the Universe, not a mere narrator of
Omars position. Omar admirer are among those against whom
Phropet warned.
> If you dont think Omar
grave sin in disobeying prophet at his deathbed, then I know
you fooled by satan. And beyound help. A slave couldnt
killed Omar in brutall way unless Almighty wanted it.
>
> Though I hate Jamati
Islam, but agree with its foundet Miulana moudidi criticism
of omar and charaterization of him as bastrd. Many othet
sunni parties in pakistan and india accuse moudidi as shia
in disguise; I dont about that but was right on that
instance.
>
--------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 10/2/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject:
Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা
কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের
কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান
ছিলো না।
> To:
"Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com,
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"mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com"
<mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>,
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<zainul321@yahoo.com>,
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"subain1@yahoo.com"
<subain1@yahoo.com>
> Date: Monday, October 2, 2017, 1:02 AM
>
> Mr. KO,
>
> Allah (SWT)
so great, he made us aware of the people like
> you, as he warned in his great Devine
>
> "তারা
শয়তানের
> মত, যে
মানুষকে কাফের
>
হতে বলে। অতঃপর যখন সে
> কাফের হয়, তখন
শয়তান
> বলেঃ
তোমার সাথে আমার
> কোন সম্পর্ক
নেই। আমি
>
বিশ্বপালনকর্তা
> আল্লাহ
তা'আলাকে ভয়
>
করি।"
>
> Your
> confession about
Allah (SWT) n his Prophet (SWT) truly
>
matched with the verse in Surah Al-Hashr.
>
> Capt. Razzak A.
Syed
>
>
> Sent from my
>
iPhone
>
>
>>
> On 2 Oct 2017,
at 3:22 pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Razzak
>> Do you know,
>
Prophet had premonition, all kinds of suedo / hyphenated
> muslims increasingly many of whom will
be so interested
> conquering and
bloodleting, plundering all in the name
>
Islam, that Almighty will have to end it with qyamut with
> disgust. He was so right, mankind didnt
have to wait too
> long, it started with
Omar. Conquering replace preaching, in
>
Islam peace has diminishing role, more and more like
> bloodletting like kafir is taking over the
authority of what
> Islam should be like.
Duplicity will be mode conduct. Talk
> of
peace when cornered or to fool, like dishonest sob.But
> conquer when it is convinient or recruit
some unsavvy with
> promise of hur
pori.
>>
>>
Tell me if said anything wrong on
>
qyamat.
>>
>>
>
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>> On Sun, 10/1/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Subject:
> Re:
{PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা
> কিন্তু কখনই
হিন্দুদের
> কোন
ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান
> ছিলো না।
>> To:
>
"Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com,
> "bangladesh-progressives
googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>,
> "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com"
> <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>,
> "DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>,
> "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>,
> "Iqbal Kabir" <iqbalkabir582@gmail.com>,
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> <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>,
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> "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>,
> "nabdc@googlegroups.com"
> <nabdc@googlegroups.com>,
> "Isha Khan" <bdmailer@gmail.com>,
> "zainul321@yahoo.com"
> <zainul321@yahoo.com>,
> "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>,
> "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>,
> "subain1@yahoo.com"
> <subain1@yahoo.com>
>> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2017, 9:55
PM
>>
>> Mr.
KO,
>>
>> "Zakir
> in
one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted
>> to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed
it.
> To prove to
>> prophet, he doesn't
> worship kaba, he had to climb on the
>>
> top of kaba,
recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their
>> religious artifactsm; shia and sunni
as
> new convert from
>> kafir found hard
> those practices."
>>
>> Neither Mr.
Zakir nor myself
>> or anyone of us
present at the time of
> Prophet
(SAW).
>> However, to the best of
> my knowledge through various
>> religious
>
scholars like mufti or aleems, prophet (SAW)
>> wanted to remove those Idols from
the
> Kabah, not demolishing
>> the house of
>
Allah (SWT). There is a huge difference between
>> removing Idols and removing the house.
>>
>> Besides
that you are
> talking like the
>> controversial people
> used to confront prophet (SAW), as
>>
> Allah (SWT)
mentioned in the Quran, meaning is like
>
"
>> oh, Mohammad, neither you or
the
> questioner were present at
>> the cave,
> only
I(Allah) know how many of them were there and
>> the dog, it's not the matter of
> argument with numbers,
>> it's a
> matter
of truth."
>>
>> So, what is the point you are arguing?
Do
> you
>> believe
in Kalima 'Tyabah'?
> Do you
believe Prophet
>> Mohammad (SAW)
> was the last Messenger and slave of
>>
> Allah(SWT)? If
don't, then you aren't a Muslim.
>>
>> Razzak A.
Syed
>>
>>
>> Sent from my
>>
> iPhone
>>
>>
>>> On 2 Oct
2017, at 12:29 pm,
> Khoniker
>> Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Zakir in one youtube
>> video confirmed, Prophet wanted to
> demolish kaba, but Omar
>> was opposed it.
>
To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship
>> kaba, he had to climb on the top of
kaba,
> recited Azan.
>> Kafir dont step on their
> religious artifactsm; shia and
>> sunni as
> new
convert from kafir found hard those
>> practices.
>>
>
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