RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: orphans in Bangladesh

To me...big words/lecture/research.....are always less important than offering something...to the poor, sick and helpless.

Good for you you are a greater MAN than all of us talking heads put together. A man with the essence of human kindness as exemplified by your charity & piety.  

 

By the way Maqsud what is happening to your email name it seems to be steadily morphing into Obama or is it Obamba!!!

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: maxx ombba
Sent: Oct 26, 2009 11:39 PM
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: orphans in Bangladesh

 

I realized many years ago, that placing at least....1 kid in a family, by paying the expense, is the best we can offer.
I can assure you that it really works.
Of course the question of finding a caring, safe, warm family is always important.
Beleive me....it is possible to organize such placement...even when you are overseas.
To me...big words/lecture/research.....are always less important than offering something...to the poor, sick and helpless.
Hopefully my comment will encourage you + other readers to explore that avenue, without depending on govt.

Best wishes.

khoda hafez.

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To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: Ezajur@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:28:33 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, the inventor of 3 million



Dear Alochok Omar
Yes of course. But you should not assume that Junaid or myself are not engaged in such charitable activities :) For myself I can promise you that I am engaged in such activities already - and to the best of my abilities. Frankly, charitable activities rather enhance our right to speak openly!
It is the role of government to ensure that the young children of our nation are protected from the more extreme aspects of poverty. There should at least be a plan! After all we are talking about children! Perhaps we could dump those kids in a rotten etimkhana? Or maybe we can export them in a few years if they grow up lucky enough to be a maid or a teaboy in the Middle East? That way we would be helping the Government by removing the problem? You know I'm being cheeky : )
But then children and young people are never a priority. Did you ever hear political activists talking about them? Apart from demanding they know that their real baap is Mujib or Zia? Coz ya gotta be older to be in politics and ya only counts if ya is in politics! Thats why we only celebrate the efforts of the middle class, intellectuals and students during 1971. No one ever game a damn about a poverty stricken 15 year old boy who picked up a gun out of patriotism but who was shot dead because he wasn't very good at killing. Oh why worry about such things! More songs and drama please about confused lovers... Thank you very much!
God bless all those kids on our streets. And God forgive us for the way we - and our leaders - let them down. 
Best wishes
Ezajur Rahman, Kuwait
 
 
 
 
 

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, maxx ombba <maqsudo@...> wrote:
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> dear ejajur/junaid,
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> Recently I had asked 1 of my staff to visit an orphanage in Tejgaon, Dhaka.
> Is it not shocking to re-discover that:
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> 1. the adult girls don't get adequate supply of any type of 'sanitary towels/pad' there.
> 2. Orphans sleep on jute - bags, they have no bed/mattress/blanket.
> 3. They get simple meals, depending on the amount of donations, orphanage get.
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> Don't you think that some of us should spend more time and energy to look-after these
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> Best wishes.
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> Khoda hafez.
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> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> From: Ezajur@...
> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:27:01 +0000
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, ! the inventor of 3 million
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> Dear Junaid
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> I am a bigger Bangal than you. Greatness is relative. What is greatness in today's Bangladesh can easily be smallness elsewhere. I am mildly sarcastic about our social and politcial culture. I exercise considerable restraint.
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> Don't pretend you don't know how much ammunition and evidence is out there for me to use. The nation's soul begs that the truth is hurled in our faces. Your lucky ego is still unchallenged.
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> Your argument is typical of our political condition - irrelevance posing as relevance, smartness posing as brilliance. You know nothing about my work ethic, how I balance life, where and when and how fast I write. Just as I don't k! now if you are using a yahoo account on your employer's time or equipm ent.
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> You consider using an employers time and server as reason not to challenge our political culture. You would make a good Deshi politician. A little personal dishonesty should disqualify one from fighting dishonesty, corruption and decay on the national stage? I never stole from anyone, beat anyone up, paid a bribe, ruined a young person's future, destroyed a career, punished honesty, forced anyone to leave the country, decimated hope, exploited ignorance and illiteracy. Our politcial parties do. I understand that this does not upset you or make angry. But some kuthas like me find it outrageously unacceptable. Very strange na?
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> Let me be clear. Having personal vices and personal crimes excuses no citizen from demanding the best accountability, transparency and performance from elected officials.
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> So your reply to a challenge on if 3 million died is how do I know it is less?! Brilliant defence.
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> And you ref! er to my Pakistani lords?! See.. you can't help your khasloth.. Just as I can't help my khasloth :) Only difference is you would rather keep quiet about our khasloth but I want to shine a torch on it.
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> Who says the 3 million number is settled? Its not settled. Nothing is ever settled. What else is settled? Come on tell me. What other official statements since 1971 are sacred to you? Everything is swept under the madhoor. You know that. Why do you write as if I am not a fellow Bangal? But you have a point - why bring it up at all? Well. Because looking at our everyday condition - I believe our cage should be rattled very hard. And our collective propensity to be silent on any number of issues is directly proportional to my propensity to be offensive.
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> > Dear Mr. Ejazur
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> > They say that some are born great, some are made great and some have
> > greatness thrust upon them. By your mail anybody can assume that you are
> > a born great. Come on stop this crap. Put your feet on the ground. I
> > don't know you are a "real Bengali" or not, though you
> > always portray yourself to be above a "real Bengali". Not this
> > time only, in the past also you have been very! sarcastic about Bengalis.
> > One may wonder how you get so much time to write on every subject in
> > this forum. So you live in Kuwait. Some of your posting suggest you work
> > with KPC as you were writing from KPC server. Mr. Great you are using
> > KPC server and KPC time to write in this forum. And you are preaching
> > honesty. Typical, is not it? Not a "real Bengali" type.
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> > Official Bangladesh stand is 3 million died during its war of
> > liberation. You questioned it and suggest it was 300,000. How you know
> > it was 300,000? Your lords in Pakistan say it was only around 30,000.
> > And on what context you brought in the issue of how many died in
> > Bangladesh War of Liberation? If I recollect, it was not an issue. Issue
> > was how many votes were casted during 2008 election.
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> > And I suggest you to write less but write wit! h sense. Work for your
> > employer during working hours. He is paying you for that. And leave some
> > job for the future historian. Let him also work on something. We the
> > "real Bengalis" have enough problems to tackle and have enough
> > issues to talk. For God sake don't make settled issues (at the least
> > as it looks like now) another controversy.
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> > With lot of regards
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> > Junaid
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> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" ezajur.rahman@ wrote:
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> > > I'll have to talk in your language.
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> > > If my mother and sister were raped I would talk about my mother and
> > sister and any other victim I knew of. If your mother and sister were
> > raped you would not even acknowledge it (after all real Bengali na?) -
> > unless of course you had the melodrama and smokescreen of saying all the
> > women i! n the entire village were raped!
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> > > The average Deshi male turns his back on justice for, and
> > acknowedgement of, rape victims within his own family even today - let
> > alone back then. So don't get all high and mighty with your political
> > use of the word rape.
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> > > While better people than me are busy with poverty alleviation and the
> > role of religion and the price of fertiliser in Dinajpur I am here to
> > deal with political exploitation by people like you.
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> > > Stand your ground. Or skip away - its not like you ever had much to
> > say anyway.
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> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, ratri@ wrote:
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> > > > I guess ignorance is a bliss of solitude for you ! You wouldn't dare
> > to comment like that if! your mother or sister was raped , or a family
> > member was brutally killed , then again I am wasting my time to dumb
> > narrow minded jack ass !
> > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "ezajur" ezajur.rahman@
> > > > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:45:02
> > > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: It was Yahya Khan, not Mujib, the inventor
> > of 3 million
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> > > > Dear Alochok Farida
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> > > > A million deaths here or there is irrelevant only in a cosmic sense.
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> > > > Down in the gutter of our politics, how many died in 1971 is the
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> > > > most important question that should be answered by Bangladesh.
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> > > > We pay the price for thinking ! that the real number does not matter -
> > > > because, as a result, now NOTHING matters.
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> > > > The sanctity we afford the number 3 million has sanctified our bold
> > > > stupidity.
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> > > > The institutionalisation of the number 3 million has
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> > > > our crass mediocrity.
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> > > > That number props up our egos, our insecurities and our delusions.
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> > > > That number cheapens the value of life and lightens the loss of
> > life.
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> > > > We cannot even begin to describe how negatively that number has
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> > > > our politics and our conscience.
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> > > > There are dirty reasons why we don't talk about it. And none of the
> > ! > > reasons are in the context of the cosmos.
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> > > > These reasons are the very same reasons for our condition. I can't
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> > > > about them because I don't think the English language can
> > accommodate
> > > > the scale of political depravity in Bangladesh.
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> > > > Ezajur Rahman
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> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@> wrote:
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> >! > > > I try to avoid getting into the '3 million killed' argument. It is
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> > > > pointless argument, as if a million subtracted here or added there
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> > > > a whole lot of difference. Below is a snippet excerpt from something
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> > > > wrote on Genocide of 1971 two years ago.
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> > > > > He quotes R. J. Rummel again: "It was Yahya Khan, then President
> > > > of Pakistan", who said regarding his ill-conceived miliitary
> > crackdown
> > > > on East Pakistan in March, 1971: "Kill three million of them and the
> > > > rest will eat out of our hands" (p315).
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> > > > > The intended number to be killed mentioned in the statement of
> > Yahya
> > >! > is not nearly as important as the explicit aim for mass killing that
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> > > > expressed in the bombast there. And the aim of this mass killing was
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> > > > make "them" eat out of "our" hands.
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> > > > > But that was Pakistani military's neo-colonial aim. I distinguish
> > > > between that aim and the one that was in the blackened hearts of the
> > > > Bengali Razakars as they conducted the mass murders of
> > fellow-countrymen
> > > > in 1971. Those Razakars (and their newer versions) with the same
> > > > murederous desires in their hearts are still among us. We keep
> > knocking
> > > > over them even in this forum.
> > > > >
> > > > > Farida Majid
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> > > > >
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