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Monday, November 22, 2010

[ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By Indian Tansit Deal--Says who?

Oh sure, sure Afghanistan needed Transit Trade Agreement with Pakistan without any Foreign Import and Export. You sound like a fool here.
* Do you understand meaning of word 'Transit'?
* What other purpose would have been for that 'Transit Trade' Agreement if Afghan Imports and Exports were not going through any ports of Pakistan?
* Why don't you know Afghanistan is a land-locked country?
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I think, you have very low IQ or you think you are God of Knowledge and everybody is lying just like you are so, you have to never agree.
You wrote, if Afghanistan is using Pak Port for that Transit of Foreign Import Trade "then duties are payable".
Go to Pakistan and tell this to Pakistanis so they can laugh at you asking, when Afghanistan is paying for the imports, what right we have to collect Tariff on them.
Afghans are not even there to get their imports unloaded from ships. Its job of Pakistan to deliver them in to Afghanistan through her Trucking Companies.
* Why would not new work would be created for BD Trucking Companies by Indian Transit Trade if Indian Trucks are not allowed in?
* Why would not be a lot of new permanent jobs created in BD Trucking Industry?
Pakistan runs a Trade Surplus with Afghanistan or not has nothing to do with Afghanistan not paying Pakistani Tariffs because Tariffs are basically imposed to defend Local Industry and those goods going to Afghanistan have no effect on local consumers.
Please stop conversing with me because it sounds like I am talking with some Illiterate, who does not even understand meaning of word Transit and Tariff ...!
I feel real bad for BD because you have just proven that General Knowledge and IQ level of even educated people like you is so low. No wonder BD is still poorer than Pakistan despite 39 years of freedom and actually now almost twice poorer than Pakistan, when she was Per Capita Income disparity was not this much in 1971.
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Mercy God, mercy over poor Bangladeshis ...!
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--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" <emanur@...> wrote:
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> My dear parrot. Let me explain.
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> In all cases associated with oil/gas pipelines, the infrastructure has been built at the cost of the beneficial owner or indeed transit charges are payable. Neither is true in the case of Bangladesh.
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> Your Afghanistan example makes no sense unless Afghanistan is using Pakistan's ports. If so then duties are payable not to mention the fact that excluding heroin and including arms, Pakistan runs a trade surplus with Afghanistan. Again, not true in the case of Bangladesh.
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> We hear you alright - we hear the echo of an empty vessel. The latter being what you clearly desire for Bangladesh.
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> Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "ANDREWL" <turkman@...>
> Sender: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:55:10
> To: <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By Indian Tansit Deal--Says who?
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> I had asked before "Why should BD be collecting Tariffs or any Taxes on Goods in transit to India and not for sale in BD?".
> Nobody answered and now these gentlemen keep repeating the same B.S. like Parrots, who can not hear me.
> .
> FACTS:
> Please tell me if you have any brain, ...
> .
> * Was Pakistan collecting any Tariffs or other Taxes on Imports or Exports of Afghanistan?
> * Is Iran doing the same with Central Asian Countries and Russia?
> * Does Turkey collect any Tariff on Oil that Iraqi Pipe Line sells from one of her ports in Mediterranean Sea in the middle-south of Turkey?
> * Does every country that Russian Natural Gas Pipe Line passes through in Europe charges Tariff on that Gas? (Only Scandinavian Countries do not get Russian Gas).
> * Are Afghanistan and Pakistan going to charge Tariff on Natural Gas going through the Pipe Line transiting through from Iran or Turkmenistan to India and then eventually to B.D.?
> .
> Spending EXAMPLES:
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> 1. Actually Iran spent her own money to build Highway from her port of Bander Abbas to Ashkabad, Turkmanistan.
> 2. To get Russia, Azerbaijan etc transit trade, Iran spent her own money linking Bander Abbas with a Railway Line going through whole southeast to northwest length of Iran to Russian Railway System in Azerbaijan.
> 3. Turkey actually built that Pipe Line decades ago to import Iraqi Oil for herself and to let Iraq sell it from her port.
> 4. Crazy Pres. Reagan had told the world that no country should help USSR build Gas Pipe Line to Europe but even US Companies had refused to listen to him and whole Europe started getting Russian Gas by mid 1980's.
> .
> Can we talk some sense instead of keep repeating, what ISI has been propagating through its Agents on Bangla Forums?
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> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" <emanur@> wrote:
> >
> > Let's see if we can simplify this and focus on the core issue.
> >
> > • We receive a $1 billion loan from India.
> > • We use this money to upgrade the port and widen our roads.
> > • We then waive all duties on the goods flowing through.
> >
> > So net, we've just landed ourselves with a $1 billion loan.
> >
> > Possible motivations for signing such a deal?
> >
> > • Inability to see or understand the above, ie idiot;
> > • Personal gain, ie opportunist; or
> > • Representing Indian national interest only, ie traitor.
> >
> > That's my simple logic.
> >
> > Now let's here the counter arguments.
> >
> > Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@>
> ?
> >
> > Sir
> > Ah yes it would be nice to win a nobel... Just like you one can also express one's opinion. Its a free medium.and nobody has stopped you from expressing your opinion no matter how delusional and self serving it might be. We are subject to it on a daily basis from you and other gentleman. Please extend the same courtesy.
> >  
> > If numbers were the only thing then the tea party would be greatest social movement.this world has seen. Besides we only have your word for the popularity of your opinion.
> >  
> > As far as being a traitor or oppurtunistic please speak for yourself.
> >  
> > Robin Khundkar
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wazed Khondkar
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> >  
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> > Dear Alochoks,
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> > Mr. Robin Khondkar wrote the following regarding mine and Mr. Emanur Rahmans comment on this matter (please see below). I am sorry I did not know that Mr. Robin only write to alochona to win a Noble prize or some kind of recognition from the ruling elite of BD or am I being cynical like Mr. Robin? Some of us mere mortals only express their opinions and there are a lot of Bangladeshies at home and abroad would agree with our views.
> >
> > He is porbably a traitor (I hope not) and an opportunist politicians of BD but us mere mortals do not have a sinister plot like Mr. Robin. Mr. Robin is free to express his views any way he wishes but should not make personal attack just because other people do not agree with his views.
> > Mr. Robin should highlight the good points about the transit deal. Please share this with the rest of us. You have to excuse my intelligenece but I can not see how the transit deal would be a good deal for BD.
> >
> > Salam
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Robin Khundkar rkhundkar@
>
> And ofcourse you two wonderful Gents are the very embodiment of patriotism, love of country, the milk of human kindness. Frankly I am astounded that both of you have not been bronzed yet as national heroes. I must tell my traitorous sycophantic oppurtunistic friends what a wonderful oppurtunistic they are missing. The contract for your statues is worth millions. Just imagine.......&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
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> From: Emanur Rahman emanur@
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> t; We do not have a Bangladeshi administration. Therein lies the problem. We have traitors in power. All the evidence suggests the same. Its not even about party interests. I dare say many AL supporters and party members also recognise this but choose not to speak up because they are either traitors, opportunists, sycophants or just plain stupid. &gt; &gt; Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@ &gt; &gt; ----------------------------------------------------------&gt; &gt; From: Wazed Khondkar wkkhondkar@ &gt; Sender:
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> ear Alochoks,&gt; &gt; This is another interesting news about the transit route for India. So, India will save 70% of transport cost at the expense of Bangladesh. This means India will be able to export their goods at a much cheaper cost and be more competitive. So what will happened to industries in Bangladesh? &gt; &gt; What has India done so far for Bangladesh? What has happened to trade imbalance between Bangladesh and India? Why cannot Bangladesh sale its goods and services to India without any entry barriers?&gt; &gt; Certain groups of people with vested interest trying to hood wink the population of Bangladesh into thinking that a transit route for India is good for Bangladesh. This is indeed very bad news for Bangladesh. India can look after its interest but who is looking after Bangladesh's interest. Certainly not our politicians.&gt; &gt; This issue has such a national importance that it should be put forward to the public in a referendum â€" let the people of Bangladesh decide whether it is good for them or not. This issue should not be decided by Mujib's daughter or Dictator's wife and sons but by the people of Bangladesh.&gt; &gt; I see some analogy between this issue and the European single currency - UK did not join the single currency the Euro. Had UK joined the single currency (which is dominated by Germany) it would have been a complete disaster for UK economy. &gt; &gt; Politicians in the UK put their national interest first whereas politicians in Bangladesh put their parties interest first.&gt; &gt; Salam&gt;
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