Re: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By Indian Tansit Deal--Says who?

Mr. Rahman,

You just let the cat (or shall I say the dog) out of the bag! And it's barking is getting louder.

Your last statement really speaks volume: the factories are going into foreign ownership and cheap imports from India is flooding the market. And what have our great leaders done about it?

It is amazing to see how blinkered the views of some of the alochoks are. We are free to say whatever we want - but at the end logic dictates everything. In the world of business one does not depend on others kindness or goodwill but one uses ones knowledge and expertise to get the best deal for his or her country.

At the beginning of this year when our great leader was visiting India then she stated to the media that India will not do anything that will harm the interest of Bangladesh. Did she demanded that India should lift all trade barriers/tariff immediately so Bangladesh can sell her goods and services to India unchallenged like Bangladesh is allowing India? And did India expressed her sorrow for being such unjust and put it right straight way? Yeah - and there lies the problem.

Bangladesh could have make this deal from position of strength, instead she has rolled over like a puppy and agreed to sign a deal that will provide no tangible benefit to Bangladesh. India needs this deal more than Bangladesh does.

Livelihoods of millions depends on the garment industry and look what is happening. It is time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Why is it that if one opposes AL's policy he becomes a paki dog or one opposes BNPs stance on foreign policy he becomes a RAW agent? Could it be that some of the alochoks do not have mental capacity to reason beyond this shallow thinking? This is just pathetic! So according to them all Bangladeshis are traitors - they are either looking after the interest of India or Pakistan but not Bangladesh - you could not get any dumber than this - could you?

I urge all Bangladeshi businessmen, lawyears, teachers and workers from all walks of life to debate about this matter in a peacefull, respectable way and I am sure you will see the truth. Please do not ignore this or our future generation will suffer.

There is no need to show violence or exchange insults like some of our alochoks are doing, which I just find very pathetic. Please grow up and see some common sense!

Salam

--- On Mon, 22/11/10, Emanur Rahman <emanur@rahman.com> wrote:

> From: Emanur Rahman <emanur@rahman.com>
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By Indian Tansit Deal--Says who?
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, 22 November, 2010, 8:21
> "Yeah, yeah" - the empty vessel
> continues to echo.
>
> In your examples you are again referring to countries with
> trade surpluses with their neighbours. Interestingly some
> have free trade agreements which allow the free flow of
> goods and services. Again, Bangladesh has neither.
>
> Why don't you explain again what the benefits are? Oh dear,
> you haven't explained that at all.
>
> There is no ISI in this discussion, only logic and facts -
> you have none of the former and only irrelevance in the
> latter.
>
> Btw, I was in Bangladesh just 2 weeks ago. 40 RMG factories
> already sold. Battery, tyre and a range of other mass
> products are already under threat from cheap Indian imports.
> We import $2 billion of goods from India and export $300
> million. Perhaps you can manage the arithmetic to establish
> where we are? If not, do let me know.
>
>
> Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@rahman.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "ANDREWL" <turkman@sbcglobal.net>
> Sender: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 23:07:58
> To: <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By Indian Tansit
> Deal--Says who?
>
> Oh yeah, yeah for sure because the same happened to ...
> .
> * ... Iran because Iran had let Central Asian Countries and
> Russia transit their trade through 2 decades ago. No
> industry now exists in Iran and all Iranian have died of
> starvation.
> * ... Pakistan because she had let Afghanistan transit her
> trade through a few decades ago. No industry existed in
> Pakistan and all Pakistanis had died of starvation in
> 1960's.
> * ... USA because she had let Mexico and Canada transit
> their trade through in 1993. No industry existed in USA and
> all Americans had died of starvation in 1990's.
> .
> Please learn from the above examples and do not let Birth
> Enemy of Pakistan, India have any influence in B.D. as ISI
> has been dieing to tell you ...!
> ------------
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com,
> Wazed Khondkar <wkkhondkar@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mr. Anwar,
> >
> > Thanks
> > for your support on this matter. Here are my
> predictions of what will
> > happened to BD's future if this transit deal is
> allowed to happened
> > -
> >
> > 1. Within five years of opening the borders of BD to
> allow
> > India to transport its goods/services to the rest of
> the world - most
> > of the industries of BD will shut down or will be
> under foreign
> > (Indian) ownership. This is the worst case scenario
> but thanks to the incompetence of our leaders and
> politicians this will become a reality.
> >
> > 2. The revenue that BD should earn from
> > the transit deal will never be fully realised - most
> of the revenue
> > will end up in the pockets of dishonest, criminal
> border security
> > forces, politicians and members of the tax/inland
> revenue boards.
> >
> > 3.
> > The Indian multinational companies will bribe the BD
> officials to
> > keep their mouth shut so they can move their goods and
> services
> > through BD without paying any tax/tariffs etc.
> >
> > 4. The transit
> > deal will legitimise black market economy,
> cross-border terrorism and
> > underworld criminals.
> >
> > 5. This deal will strengthen the grip of
> > India on BD's economy and paralyse local industries.
> >
> > If you
> > think these predictions are inaccurate then consider
> this - in a
> > perfect world  all people of south Asia would live
> in peace and
> > harmony and respect each others religion, culture -
> have common
> > market economy so they can do business with each other
> in a fair
> > level playing field. Unfortunately this is not a
> perfect world.
> > Countries like India and BD have endemic corruption -
> just look at
> > what has happened during Commonwealth Games in India -
> it has exposed
> > the underbelly of Indian culture - corrupt,
> incompetent, racially
> > divided.
> >
> > In this backdrop one would think twice before signing
> > a deal with India to open up its borders.
> >
> > Salam.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 21/11/10, Shafqat Anwar
> <anwarshafqat@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Shafqat Anwar <anwarshafqat@...>
> > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By Indian
> Tansit Deal--Says who?
> > To: "Alochona Management" <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Sunday, 21 November, 2010, 5:43
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> >
> >
> >     
> >       
> >       
> >       
> >
> >
> > Dear Alochoks,
> >
> >  
> >
> > I fully agree with Wazed Khondkar. Mr. Robin K's
> comments are totally unwarranted for and imbalanced. If
> he has to refute the views expressed on
> the ongoing/concluded transit deal then he should come
> up with well-reasoned/logical arguments in favour of
> the benefits of the transit arrangement which he has
> obviously avoided in this instance. This raises the question
> that whose interest he actually represents ! 
> >
> >  
> >
> > Shafqat Anwar 
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > From: wkkhondkar@...
> > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:19:36 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By Indian
> Tansit Deal--Says who?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Alochoks,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr. Robin Khondkar wrote the following regarding mine
> and Mr. Emanur Rahmans comment on this matter (please see
> below). I am sorry I did not know that Mr. Robin only write
> to alochona to win a Noble prize or some kind of recognition
> from the ruling elite of BD or am I being cynical like Mr.
> Robin? Some of us mere mortals only express their opinions
> and there are a lot of Bangladeshies at home and abroad
> would agree with our views.
> >
> >
> > He is porbably a traitor (I hope not) and an
> opportunist politicians of BD but us mere mortals do not
> have a sinister plot like Mr. Robin. Mr. Robin is free to
> express his views any way he wishes but should not make
> personal attack just because other people do not agree with
> his views.
> >
> > Mr. Robin should highlight the good points about the
> transit deal. Please share this with the rest of us. You
> have to excuse my intelligenece but I can not see how the
> transit deal would be a good deal for BD.
> >
> >
> > Salam
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com,
> Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And ofcourse you two wonderful Gents are the very
> embodiment of patriotism, love of country, the milk of human
> kindness. Frankly I am astounded that both of you have not
> been bronzed yet as national heroes. I must tell my
> traitorous sycophantic oppurtunistic friends what a
> wonderful oppurtunistic they are missing. The contract for
> your statues is worth millions. Just imagine.......
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Emanur Rahman <emanur@> [Add to
> Address Book]
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By
> Indian Tansit Deal--Says who?
> > > Date: Nov 10, 2010 11:19 PM
> > >
> > > We do not have a Bangladeshi administration.
> Therein lies the problem. We have traitors in power. All the
> evidence suggests the same. Its not even about party
> interests. I dare say many AL supporters and party members
> also recognise this but choose not to speak up because they
> are either traitors, opportunists, sycophants or just plain
> stupid.
> > >
> > > Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: Wazed Khondkar <wkkhondkar@>
> > > Sender: alochona@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 20:31:45 +0000 (GMT)
> > > To: <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
> > > ReplyTo: alochona@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh Fooled By
> Indian Tansit Deal--Says who?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Alochoks,
> > >
> > > This is another interesting news about the
> transit route for India. So, India will save 70% of
> transport cost at the expense of Bangladesh. This means
> India will be able to export their goods at a much cheaper
> cost and be more competitive. So what will happened to
> industries in Bangladesh?
> > >
> > > What has India done so far for Bangladesh? What
> has happened to trade imbalance between Bangladesh and
> India? Why cannot Bangladesh sale its goods and services to
> India without any entry barriers?
> > >
> > > Certain groups of people with vested interest
> trying to hood wink the population of Bangladesh into
> thinking that a transit route for India is good for
> Bangladesh. This is indeed very bad news for Bangladesh.
> India can look after its interest but who is looking after
> Bangladesh's interest. Certainly not our politicians.
> > >
> > > This issue has such a national importance that it
> should be put forward to the public in a referendum
> â€" let the people of Bangladesh decide whether it
> is good for them or not. This issue should not be decided by
> Mujib's daughter or Dictator's wife and sons but by the
> people of Bangladesh.
> > >
> > > I see some analogy between this issue and the
> European single currency - UK did not join the single
> currency the Euro. Had UK joined the single currency (which
> is dominated by Germany) it would have been a complete
> disaster for UK economy.
> > >
> > > Politicians in the UK put their national interest
> first whereas politicians in Bangladesh put their parties
> interest first.
> > >
> > > Salam
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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