Re: [mukto-mona] Heart breaking news from KSA.

When we make a very strong or extreme comment on any controversial issue, we really need to be very careful. Every thing needs to be backed by solid references and rational and factual analysis. Otherwise the debate becomes meaningless and it will take us nowhere.

From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Heart breaking news from KSA.

 

Nope. It is you who is going around spreading fiction. I don't mind that, you do not like Islam or religions in general. That does not mean you have to take "Less than civilized route" to vent your ignorance about Islam. Fatima's (RA) death was foretold by the last prophet (PBUH). Only "Some" shia Muslims think there were violence involved. NONE of the narratives says anything about she was burned to death.

I have serious doubt about the shia narrative because Ali Bin Ali Talib (RA) was still alive and he could face ten people by himself. So the "Attack" part is unlikely. There was a dispute over interpretation of a hadith and some Fatima (RA) died pretty soon after prophet Muhammad (PBUH) passed away.

I would encourage you to research a bit more BEFORE you want to "Poke" religion. So far most of what you said are based on "Fiction".

I tend to stick with "Non-fiction" in this forum.

Peace. :-)

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From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 16, 2011 9:30 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Heart breaking news from KSA.

 

Ask any mufti, read any book on the history of primitive Islam, or you may read 'The Shade of the Sword' by M. J. Akbar.  Read more and be less of a believer.  King Solomon the wise prayed to God for wisdom and he died an apostate.  r, Oh quasi-theocrat, read books on religion, and otherwise holy books.  You would need nothing more to loose your faith.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:47 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 

Source please?

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From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 13, 2011 5:23 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Heart breaking news from KSA.

 

The Saudi ambassador should know that as Hazrat Ali and Fatima refused  allegiance to Abu Bakr, the first Caliph of Islam, Ali was forcibly removed from his house and his house was burned down.  As a result, Fatima, daugter of the prophet of Islam, was burned.  She died a day later.  Such a cruel event might have been sanctioned by Allah.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Jamal Hasan <poplu@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

Daily Star news:

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=206005

 

Saudi Ambassador in Dhaka proudly and boldly defended beheading eight Bangladeshi young men. Ambassador responded to the question of Bangladeshi reporters by saying:

"The Saudi government acts to implement the law of Allah. We had nothing to do but to uphold the sanctions of Allah. The sharia law has been implemented through the execution," the ambassador said.

 

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