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Saturday, November 12, 2011

Re: [mukto-mona] Are some religious people menaces in the society?--false propaganda against religion and religious people

Mr. Hanan should read Wikipedia regarding the matter. Not only Mr.
Maududi was given the death sentence, an army contingent led by Lt.
Gen. Azam Khan had to go to capture him. It was not just writing a
book, he actively incited the riot against the Quadianis.

On 11/12/11, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
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> Assalamu Alaikum.Kamal Das sahib knows only half truth. In fact,Maulana
> Maududi was given death sentence much before Ayub Khan by a Martial law
> court ( a local martial was imposed in Lahore by the then civil government)
> for writing a book ( The Qadiani Problem).It is an academic book , still in
> circulation in most important languages of the world, English, Arabic, Urdu,
> Bangla etc.The Martial law order was totally biased as it could not hang a
> person for writing an analytical book on a problem. There was pressure
> inside and outside the country. for his release, even from the then East
> Pakistan( you can read news papers of 1952-53 published from Dhaka).
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> Shah Abdul Hannan
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> From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Kamal Das
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:16 AM
> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Are some religious people menaces in the
> society?--false propaganda against religion and religious people
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> Maulana Maududi was given the death sentence by the Ayub regime for the
> crime. But he was later pardonned by external pressure.
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> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:00 PM, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
> wrote:
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> As regards Subimol Chakrabarty sahib's points, followers of Maududi did not
> kill any Ahmadi( Pl see Munir Commision report on punjan disturbances)
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> As regards 1971 events, many groups killed each other ( read Sharmila Bose's
> dead Reckoning)
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> Shia Sunni violence is created by secular political elements like MQM and
> some religious bigot's .They are hated by 99 percent people.
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> Again read my earlier submission" Respected all,
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> Atheists and secularists (who believe in naturalism and rationalism only and
> who deny role of religion in public life) are more menace to humanity,
> morality, civilization as history shows. Most of the wars including first
> and second great wars were waged by them.
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> Most of the people of religions are good people. Many of them are misguided
> by secular political leaders or some ignorant and aggressive religious
> bigots.
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> Religious people of all religions should fight these exploiters and stand
> for humanity, morality and social welfare."
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> Shah Abdul Hannan
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> _____
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> From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of qar
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:48 AM
> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Are some religious people menaces in the society?
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> Killing of the Ahmediyas by the followers of Mowdoodi in Pakistan, killing
> and raping of freedom loving Bengalis in 1971, bombing of mosques to kill
> innocent Shiites in Pakistan and Iraq and somewhere else----are all these
> the acts by the secularists?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are right these were acts of half educated idiots who
> do not understand the core message of Islam.
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> However atheist people have done more murdering of innocents than any
> religious people. Stalin, Mao (Of china) etc done their part in killing
> anyone who had a different point of view.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
> To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 6:37 am
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Are some religious people menaces in the society?
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> Killing of the Ahmediyas by the followers of Mowdoodi in Pakistan, killing
> and raping of freedom loving Bengalis in 1971, bombing of mosques to kill
> innocent Shiites in Pakistan and Iraq and somewhere else----are all these
> the acts by the secularists?
>
>
>
> From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 2:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Are some religious people menaces in the society?
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> Respected all,
>
> Atheists and secularists (who believe in naturalism and rationalism only and
> who deny role of religion in public life) are more menace to humanity,
> morality, civilization as history shows. Most of the wars including first
> and second great wars were waged by them.
>
> Most of the people of religions are good people. Many of them are misguided
> by secular political leaders or some ignorant and aggressive religious
> bigots.
>
> Religious people of all religions should fight these exploiters and stand
> for humanity, morality and social welfare.
>
>
>
> Shah Abdul Hannan
>
>
>
> From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com?> ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 6:42 AM
> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Are some religious people menaces in the society?
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> @Nihar Singh:
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> The true religious people - who are they? Whether they bother anybody or not
> - is not the issue. The issue is how much is their contribution towards the
> advancement of the modern society? Are people, who take part in the communal
> riots or blowup innocent people in the name of religion, any less religious?
> You may think so - but they don't.
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> @Kamal Das:
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> The New Testaments does not contain many of the violent verses of the Old
> Testament means these are not absolute truth. This is the point I am trying
> to make.
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> Thanks.
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> From: nihar singh <nihar_singh786@yahoo.com>
> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Are some religious people menaces in the society?
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> Truely religious people dont disturb anyone. On the other hand atheists try
> to make everyone atheists. That is true menace. Look at darwin he made
> everyone think that they eveolved from apes. Many jokers believe this to be
> true.
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> --- On Mon, 11/7/11, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [mukto-mona] Are some religious people menaces in the society?
> To: "Mukto-mona" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, November 7, 2011, 7:12 PM
>
> Are some religious people menaces in the society?
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> I have been asking this question lately to myself. I tried to find the roles
> and contributions (I mean, real contributions) of religious people in the
> society that brought us here from the beginning of time. What I envisioned
> is that - religion played a very insignificant role towards our social,
> moral, and scientific developments in this world. Most of these developments
> are made by religiously indifferent people. The religious people mostly deal
> with and talk about things that are out of this world. As a result, many of
> these religious people are misfits and menaces in the society.
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> Many argue that religion builds our moral character, and we learn good and
> bad from religion, etc. etc. I, on the other hand, think - good and bad we
> learn from our ancestors, and from our own experiences; religion has nothing
> to do with it. You might ask where our ancestors learned them from, in the
> first place. They learned good and bad from their ancestors' experiences, so
> on, and so forth. Most Chinese do not have any religion. When I asked a
> Chinese man - how most people there learn about good and bad without
> religion, he told me - they learn them from their elders' wisdoms. That's
> right; our ancestors transferred their knowledge and wisdom to us.
> Therefore, I truly believe - this world would have been a much better place
> without religion. Religions have divided us into many sectarian hateful
> clans, which are constantly fighting with one another.
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> Many of us believe that religious doctrines and dogmas are heavenly absolute
> entities. They forget that - many of those doctrines, dogmas, and
> interpretations have already been modified from the original preaching
> during emancipation. For example, Old Testament has been replaced by the New
> Testament, many Quranic interpretations have been changed, and many
> Vedic/Puranic practices and interpretations have been changed, etc., etc.
> That means - religious teachings and practices are subject to change with
> the time, which means they are not so heavenly endowments as we believe them
> to be. This is a critical point to remember. Those who think otherwise are
> the menaces in the society.
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> Jiten Roy
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