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Saturday, March 10, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh




Here is another version of the episode which ultimately brought about the war of roses between the prophet and his wives:

ALLAH FROWNS ON THOSE WHO ABSTAIN FROM HAVING SEX WITH THEIR SLAVE GIRLS

( Surah No. 66 AT- TAHRIM )
CONTEXT OF THE SURAH **

It was Hafsa's turn to sleep with the Prophet .. Her maid Maria Quptia ( a gift from King of Alexandria)  was also in her room  when prophet walked in.. Maria was a very  attractive and  voluptuous  young   teenager..  She  aroused carnal desires  in any man who looked at her; then our Prophet was not any man, he was endowed with 30 man libido* by Allah. .

Narrated Qatada:

 " Prophet was given the  sexual strength of thirty men"

To be alone with Maria, Prophet sent Hafsa to her Dad's house  with a phony excuse that Umar wanted to see her.

UMAR WAS AWAY PERFORMING SUNNA

Umar was not home,  when Hafsa reached her Dad's place few houses  down the street.

Hafsa: "Mom Where is Dad"?

Mother: "He has gone to the Al Manasi field near Baqia  to defecate"...

Hafsa:  "Why doesn't he go to the field  behind  our house"..

Mother:  "Because it is a sunna to relieve yourself at the place where Prophet relieves himself"..

Hafsa: "I will wait for him" .

Mother :"It may be a long wait. He   hides there afterwards to spy on  prophet's wives".

Hafbsa: "Spy on prophet's wives, what for"? .

Mother  "To make  sure   they are veiled  according to aya 33.59  when they come to relieve themselves. As you know this aya was sent* by Allah at your Dad's request".

Narrated 'Aisha:

(the wife of the Prophet) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Apostle "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam'a went out and she was a tall woman. 'Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while she was (defecating)  in a  group, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He ('Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the verse of veiling 33.59. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1)

* Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 395:

Narrated 'Umar (bin Al-Khattab):  Allah agreed with me on three things and revealed ayas, one of them was

the verse of the veiling of the women (33.59) .

.Hafsa:  "Well I cant wait that long.  It is my turn with Prophet ,  he must be in bed   waiting for me".

PROPHET IN BED BUT NOT WAITING

When Hafsa  returned, she found Preophet in   bed  but not waiting. He was in action with her maid  Maria. Hafsa was outraged (she had a temper of her Dad Umar) and started hollering at him.

Hafsa: "Rasulullah you lied and and deceived  me to screw my maid"?.

Prophet:" Hafsa mind your language. Aya 33.32* says  you should  talk to Allah's  Prophet in an a honorable manner".

* 33.32 "O wives of the Prophet! Speak to the prophet  in an honorable manner"..

Hafsa: "I will speak honorably to the   prophet when  the Prophet  stops acting dishonorably  himself".

Prophet: "Having sex with slave girls is not dishonorable.  Allah has made*  them  halal for me".

*33.50 "Mohammed , sex with slave girls and captured women is halal for you*

Hafsa:" I don't give a rat's behind who is  is halal for you and who  is  is not .. You can have  sex with a she camel  for all I care. But I don't want it   in my bed and on my night".

Prophet: "Hafsa ,calm down.  I will tell you something. If you keep this incident  a  secret  between you and me and don't tell any one,  I take an oath that  I will never  touch  Maria  again. And Please cool down first . Go have a drink of cold water....

Hafsa: " O.K. I have to go pee also...

AYA 66.1 AND 66.2  REVEALED

 Hafsa returned after a short while and  found her husband again  in  bed  with Maria.

Hafsa:  "Rasulullah, You have a  short memory.  You had just said you will not touch her again".

Prophet: "Yes I did,  but Allah revealed  aya  66.1 after you left, it says "Mohammed why do you forbid yourself  what Allah has made lawful to you just to please your wife"

Hafsa:  "What about the  oath  you took."

Prophet::   "Allah   dissolved my oath" by aya 66.2 which says Allah has ordained for you  the dissolution of your oath. And Allah is your Maula".

ALLAH SPIED  FOR THE PROPHET

        Next  morning when Prophet  returned from Fajr prayer,  his wives gave him dirty looks and a silent treatment instead of happily greeting him like every day... As smart as our prophet was, he knew right away  that Hafsa, had ratted and had divulged last night's incident to all other wives who incidentally  hated Maria for her beauty and prophet's  fondness for her.. Prophet was pissed off and  rushed into Hafsa's room: "When I told  you   to keep last night's incident with Maria a secret to yourself, I trusted you;  why did you spread it"? .

Hafsa: "Who informed you that I spread it"?

Prophet :  "Allah informed* me":

*  66.3  "The prophet had trusted one of  his wives with a certain incident, then she spread it, and GOD let him know about it. He then told his wife,she asked him, "Who informed you of this?" He said, "I was informed by  Allah".

Hafsa started trembling with fear. She had no idea Allah spied for the prophet and tattletaled to him his  wives private talks and gossips.

MISBEHAVING  WIVES  WILL BURN IN HELL FIRE

 Angry Prophet then gathered all his resentful    wives and conveyed the following chilling message from Allah  to them which had just arrived.

66.5 "If  Mohammed  divorced you all,  Allah will give him in exchange wives better than you who are  submissive and  devout".

That message was a death sentence to the scared wives. A divorce meant starving to death since no body was allowed to marry Prophet's wife according to an earlier aya...

Prophet continued:

66.10,11 " On one hand wives of Allah's  prophets Noah and Lut misbehaved with their husbands and they were put in hell fire. On the other hand wife of the kafir Pharoah was well behaved and  she was awarded paradise"..

ONE MONTH  BREAK EXCLUSIVELY WITH MARIA

      All the wives started wailing. Starving to death was one thing ; burning in hellfire for ever was something else.They grabbed his feet and  begged  him for mercy.  The merciful prophet then took pity on them and decided to apply  abstention clause of aya 4.34  (abstaining from sex  with wives as a disciplinary action ) He could have divorced them like Allah suggested or  beaten them under scouging clause of  aya 4.34 .

(Here are the specifications for  wife beating for our momin brothers who practice it or intend to practice it):

   He stayed away from all his wives for a month*  and slept  exclusively  with  Maria  to humiliate them  further and make them jealous .

"The Prophet did not go to his wives because of the secret which Hafsa had disclosed to 'Aisha, and he said that he would not go to his wives for one month as he was angry with them when Allah admonished him for his oath that he would not approach Maria".

 Allah also decided to pitch-in in the  misery of Prophet"s  wives    by  making  Maria pregnant with a baby boy  ( Ibrahim), something Mo desired most and which could not be delivered by any of the nine resident  wives.

** Note: Several embarrassed  sahabis made false   hadiths  later about this sura to protect good name of Mohammed. They fabricated the story and said it was honey and not Maria   which prophet took  an oath to  abstain from .  That is ridiculous and does not make any sense.  Here is what Ibn Saad wrote in "Tabaqat"

"Waqidi has informed us that Abu Bakr has narrated that the messenger of Allah (PBUH) had sexual intercourse with Maria in the house of Hafsa.. She told the prophet, O Messenger of Allah, do you do this in my house and during my turn? The messenger said, control yourself and let me go because I make her haram to me. Hafsa said, I do not accept, unless you swear for me. That Hazrat (his holiness) said, by Allah I will not contact her again [Tabaqat v. 8 p. 223 Publisher Entesharat-e Farhang va Andisheh Tehran 1382 solar  h ( 2003) Translator Dr. Mohammad Mahdavi Damghani]  





2012/3/11 Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
 

          Veiling of women or 'purdah' system has always been associated with upper class from the beginning of civilization everywhere in the world. It is funny that the Islamists politics is claiming it to be a paradigmatic Islamic dress code.  Other than bland, mildly toned general advice to women on modesty, the Qur'an surprisingly says nothing about mandating hijab or niqab for women. That rogue, Abul Ala Moududi, the father of modern Islamic fundamentalism, was quite annoyed at the fact that the Qur'an does not mandate hijab. 
 
         It is said that the Bedouin society in Arabia, where Jews, Christians and Muslims, men and women, wore dresses covering their heads, they did not practice 'purdah' in the way we know it now, and that it was imported from the more cosmopolitan Sassanians as a status symbol for women by the fledgling Muslim community.
 
          Anyway, you can see it in the women of Bangali society of all religions -- lower class working women have more freedom of movement than the middle caste or class. In our warm and humid climate, an extra item of clothing is burdensome and uncomfortable, not always desirable by choice. 
 
[I have an article on the subject where I analyze the verses in the Qur'an pertaining to women and hijab, published in 2004 both in Dhaka and Pakistan, blogged in numerous sites and is archived in Islamic Research Foundation Information]
 
         Farida Majid
 

To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: subimal@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 22:40:52 -0500

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
I read somewhere (maybe K, Armstrong) that veil was a sign of aristocracy and that's why prophet's wives and other women had to wear it. I believe every sura has to be analyzed in the light of the given context. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 



The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh). 

>>>>>>> You are wrong AGAIN! Get a grip on yourself.....


"O; Prophet (Muhammad)! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go outside)........

[ Source: Al Qur'an 33:59 ]



For basic info on this topic, click on the link below..

By: Prof. Maqsood Jafri


Shalom!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:10 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh).  Across the history of Islam, the use of burkha or other versions of purdah by Muslim women was never universal.

2012/3/8 Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>
 
What is going on in Bangladesh one after another?
 
 

Wed 7 Mar 2012 10:30 PM BdST

rtnnনীলফামারী, ৭ মার্চ (আরটিএনএন ডটনেট)-- সৈয়দপুরে লায়ন্স স্কুল অ্যান্ড কলেজে বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরিধান নিষিদ্ধ করা হয়েছে। ড্রেসকোড পালনের অজুহাতে এ মৌখিক নিষেধাজ্ঞা জারি করায় ছাত্রী ও অভিভাবকদের মধ্যে তীব্র ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়েছে।

এ অবস্থায় বিপাকে পড়েছে পর্দা পালনে আগ্রহী শিক্ষার্থীরা। অভিভাবকার প্রতিবাদে সোচ্চার হলেও স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় দিন দিন ক্ষোভ দানা বাঁধছে।

জানা গেছে, গত ২৯ ফেব্রুয়ারি ওই বিদ্যালয়ে অ্যাসেম্বিলি চলাকালে কর্তৃপক্ষ উপস্থিত শিক্ষার্থী ও শিক্ষকদের মৌখিকভাবে জানিয়ে দেয় যে, আজ থেকে স্কুলে আসতে হলে বোরকা বা স্কার্ফ পরা চলবে না। এরপরও কেউ তা পরে তাকে ট্রান্সফার সার্টিফিকেট (টিসি) নিয়ে অন্যত্র চলে যাওয়ার পরামর্শ দেয়া হয়।

পরদিন কিছু শিক্ষার্থী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে স্কুলে গেলে তাদের বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ ক্লাসে গিয়ে খুলে ফেলার নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়। কিন্তু অনেকে না খোলার কারণে তাদেরকে ক্লাসে অপমান করা হয় এবং সিন্ধান্ত অনুসরণে কঠোরভাবে পুনরায় নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়।

এরপরও গত শনিবার কোনো কোনো ছাত্রী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে গেলে তাদের অ্যাসেম্বিলির সময় সবার সামনে তা খুলতে বাধ্য করা হয়। এর পর বিষয়টি ছাত্রীদের মাধ্যমে অভিভাবকসহ সৈয়দপুরের সচেতন মহলে জানাজানি হলে ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়।

স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় �=A





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